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 Post subject: Re: Anyone want to move to Leitrim? Kiltyclogher wants you
PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 10:49 am 
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Coles2 wrote:
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I would hazard a guess that most of those in homeless accomm are and mostly always will be dependant on the State.
And in your mind were they dependent on the State before they became homeless? Are the 3000 children who are currently homeless destined to be a burden on the taxpayer forever?

Genuinely curious about your views on this.

If government policy is adding 1000 children every year to lifelong state dependency (at €50k per annum each for 80 years or €4billion over their lives) then as a taxpayer you can understand the strong motivation to change the policy?


Coles, wouldn't it make sense to offer these homeless families rural accommodation.
The children will have better teacher to student ratio and by the time they're 18 they're old enough to fight for themselves.

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 Post subject: Re: Anyone want to move to Leitrim? Kiltyclogher wants you
PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:07 am 
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conork wrote:
Coles2 wrote:
FreeFallin wrote:
I would hazard a guess that most of those in homeless accomm are and mostly always will be dependant on the State.
And in your mind were they dependent on the State before they became homeless? Are the 3000 children who are currently homeless destined to be a burden on the taxpayer forever?

Genuinely curious about your views on this.

If government policy is adding 1000 children every year to lifelong state dependency (at €50k per annum each for 80 years or €4billion over their lives) then as a taxpayer you can understand the strong motivation to change the policy?


Coles, wouldn't it make sense to offer these homeless families rural accommodation.
The children will have better teacher to student ratio and by the time they're 18 they're old enough to fight for themselves.

Absolutely. There should be a real push to reinvigorate rural towns and communities, but it'll only work if people want to move. It will definitely have a bad outcome if people are forced.

So, how do you do it? Encourage remote working would be a start. Maybe a tax credit for designated areas? Lower employer PRSI for a period for resettled workers? Enterprise assistance schemes, community employment schemes that focus on skills and training?

Personally, I would choose Leitrim over Dublin every time. Rural kids are happier and healthier.


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 Post subject: Re: Anyone want to move to Leitrim? Kiltyclogher wants you
PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:18 am 
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Coles2 wrote:
FreeFallin wrote:
I would hazard a guess that most of those in homeless accomm are and mostly always will be dependant on the State.
And in your mind were they dependent on the State before they became homeless? Are the 3000 children who are currently homeless destined to be a burden on the taxpayer forever?

Genuinely curious about your views on this.

If government policy is adding 1000 children every year to lifelong state dependency (at €50k per annum each for 80 years or €4billion over their lives) then as a taxpayer you can understand the strong motivation to change the policy?

I would again guess that yes, a lot of them were dependent on the State to a large degree before they came homeless. Rent allowance, subsidised childcare etc.
Thats just a guess but the stats yesterday would somewhat back this up.


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