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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 3:41 pm 
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Mining in WA has the name of marriage wrecker, even flyin flyout workers aren't immune:
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Perth Airport's charter terminals have become the new stalking ground for prostitutes trying to lure fly-in, fly-out workers returning from remote mine sites.

Prostitutes are soliciting the workers as they step off their flights and taking them directly to hotels or brothels.

The sex industry has identified the FIFO workers as a lucrative market and has made two official requests to open office space in the airport's FIFO terminals so they can tout for business.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/ne ... x-workers/

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p0 ... t_Workers/

interesting BBC WS report on the FIFOs

What exactly do you do there BJBE?


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:01 pm 
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Anyone with boots on the ground in LA or Houston or even California and Texas ? Can you tell me if it is really turning around yet


All I can talk about are the tech industries in the Bay Area and Austin and they really seem to be booming at the moment. There's a lot of VC money sloshing around and that's only going to increase after the Facebook IPO. Recruitment of software engineers in particular is getting pretty cut throat over here and my feeling is a lot of the recent start-up buyouts have been more about recruitment rather than IP. Certainly the retention bonuses been talked about are eye watering.

With a nod to the "What are people really earning" thread, software engineers with a Masters are on a handy 6 figures at the moment with a crap load of benefits thrown in. Thank you Google! 8DD

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Blindjustice BATONEFFECT wrote:
Anyone with boots on the ground in LA or Houston or even California and Texas ? Can you tell me if it is really turning around yet

Was in Dallas briefly a few weeks ago and the locals reckon it is booming in Texas.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:09 pm 
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Anyone with boots on the ground in LA or Houston or even California and Texas ? Can you tell me if it is really turning around yet


All I can talk about are the tech industries in the Bay Area and Austin and they really seem to be booming at the moment. There's a lot of VC money sloshing around and that's only going to increase after the Facebook IPO. Recruitment of software engineers in particular is getting pretty cut throat over here and my feeling is a lot of the recent start-up buyouts have been more about recruitment rather than IP. Certainly the retention bonuses been talked about are eye watering.

With a nod to the "What are people really earning" thread, software engineers with a Masters are on a handy 6 figures at the moment with a crap load of benefits thrown in. Thank you Google! 8DD


Not sure about Austin but in the BA the VC money has been draining away since the middle of last year. Lots of unhappy looking people in expensive cars on Sand Hill Rd at the moment. Even at its height the last few years was a mere shadow of the late 90's. By at least two orders of maginiturde.

For hard core shrinkwrap guys (all platforms), were the real money usually is, outside mobile its pretty quite. Lots of of lightweight glorified webscripting jobs at advertising companies like Google and Facebook which pay silly money for they are doing. But then you have to work with a bunch of total pricks and deal with nasty middle management sharks and treacherous politics. Going rate for heavy duty experience (people who look for paper qualifications rarely ship) non management positions is $140k/$160k. This is at non VC scam startups / small guys (revenue under $10M) working with people who are likely to ship a product that gets traction.

Again, outside mobile, open software positions at the moment are at about just below average levels for the last 25 years. About where it was in 1993/94 or 2004/05. Not bust but not bubbly boom either.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:45 pm 
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Again, outside mobile, open software positions at the moment are at about just below average levels for the last 25 years. About where it was in 1993/94 or 2004/05. Not bust but not bubbly boom either.

Yep, mobile and social would be the area's I have most visibility on. We've lost a lot of good candidates recently to Google/Facebook/Microsoft who I believe all gave across the board pay hikes last year in what looked like a defensive move. We've found it really hard to recruit good talent and all our recent hires have been recruited outside the States. Our starting salaries have gone up by I'd say 20% in the last 18 months on top of an expanded benefits package.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:17 am 
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Can't you start the application for OZ PR after two years?

if your in regional australia and your employer will sponsor you if you already have a qualifying visa (requirement for the qualifying visa is a trade or degree) With time getting the original visa and processing time for the next visa your looking at over 3 years and you must stay with your employer for a minimum of 2 years. So your stuck in the outback then.

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What are those mining towns really like; lodgings, bar/restaurant/brothel?
And what kind of people make up the workforce; is it mianly people who go there short term for a hit of cash or do you get people who do it long term. So much nothingness in WA.


Some of the mining areas are just a big hole in the ground with a few donga`s for accommodation. Some workforces drive in and drive out. Basically you camp out for a week or two working. Alot of the FIFO and DIDO are because there is nothing out there so unless you offer this nobody will do the job. These areas simply arent viable to develop towns either. A mine closed in WA a few years ago and a year later every shop had closed and everyone had left.

FIFO and DIDO are actually cheaper than building cities/towns in the middle of nowhere too. Kalgoorlie and Mount Isa are anomalies based on the size of the mines & not many people stay too long there either. Alot of people spend a while mining get a car and or a deposit for a house.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 8:21 am 
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Mining in WA has the name of marriage wrecker, even flyin flyout workers aren't immune:
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Perth Airport's charter terminals have become the new stalking ground for prostitutes trying to lure fly-in, fly-out workers returning from remote mine sites.

Prostitutes are soliciting the workers as they step off their flights and taking them directly to hotels or brothels.

The sex industry has identified the FIFO workers as a lucrative market and has made two official requests to open office space in the airport's FIFO terminals so they can tout for business.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/ne ... x-workers/



The whole prostitution thing is media sensationalism. Most of the mines wouldnt even have a shop. I would believe that not living with your wife and kids three quarters of the time would be the reason for breakups.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p00n0f2c/Assignment_Australias_Fly_In_Fly_Out_Workers/

interesting BBC WS report on the FIFOs


Pretty good program. The bits starting around 14/15 mins explains the marriage situations.

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What exactly do you do there BJBE?


I help find new mines for the Ozzies! A few months before I left I spotted a mining company in Donegal hiring under the National Internship Program.....

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Blindjustice BATONEFFECT wrote:
Anyone with boots on the ground in LA or Houston or even California and Texas ? Can you tell me if it is really turning around yet

Was in Dallas briefly a few weeks ago and the locals reckon it is booming in Texas.



What was your impression of the place? Nice houses so I hear

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Blindjustice BATONEFFECT wrote:
yoganmahew wrote:
Blindjustice BATONEFFECT wrote:
Anyone with boots on the ground in LA or Houston or even California and Texas ? Can you tell me if it is really turning around yet

Was in Dallas briefly a few weeks ago and the locals reckon it is booming in Texas.



What was your impression of the place? Nice houses so I hear

The people are really nice (even by american standard). The mix of black, hispanic and white seems to be relatively well integrated (again by limited view of american standards :) ). Yeah, the housing is good. No footpaths, though, so car everywhere. Massive highways, big traffic jams.

There also don't appear to be taxis. In a sense, some cities in the US appear to be spread out built up areas, not really cities at all (looking from a european view).

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2012 12:36 pm 
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Blindjustice BATONEFFECT wrote:
yoganmahew wrote:
Blindjustice BATONEFFECT wrote:
Anyone with boots on the ground in LA or Houston or even California and Texas ? Can you tell me if it is really turning around yet

Was in Dallas briefly a few weeks ago and the locals reckon it is booming in Texas.



What was your impression of the place? Nice houses so I hear


I know a guy who said he was from "Arlington - that's the city between Dallas and Fort Worth" - he laughed when I told him I had assumed Dallas and Fort Worth were like the twin cities (Minneapolis-St Paul) - but it seems it's about as sprawled as you can get


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Mr and Mrs Melmoth moving to Dallas next week. Did a recon there 2 months back, nice housing stock and quality of life seems great. Huge infrastructure investment going on at the moment , plenty of opportunity. Mrs Melmoth is sorted for work but I need to wait for green card to come through. Basically have 4 months to look around, cannot wait!


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Mining in WA has the name of marriage wrecker, even flyin flyout workers aren't immune:
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Perth Airport's charter terminals have become the new stalking ground for prostitutes trying to lure fly-in, fly-out workers returning from remote mine sites.

Prostitutes are soliciting the workers as they step off their flights and taking them directly to hotels or brothels.

The sex industry has identified the FIFO workers as a lucrative market and has made two official requests to open office space in the airport's FIFO terminals so they can tout for business.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/ne ... x-workers/


This will make for some awkward phone calls back home to Mammy from the young fella working the mines in Australia. " Now don't you be hanging around the airport" BD BD 8DD 8- :oops:


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:20 am 
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Former Anglo banker Sean FitzPatrick told friends he was "dreading" the media attention surrounding his son's wedding because he said people would think he was 'living the high life'.

But the tanned businessman stressed he wasn't paying for the lavish two-day celebrations for his son David's wedding to lawyer Barbara Clear -- niece of millionaire packaging tycoon Michael Smurfit -- at the five-star K Club Hotel.

As a close friend of the banker explained: "Before the wedding Seanie was very anxious, he said 'I'm dreading it. The press will be all over it, they will say I'm splashing out, living the high life' and he said 'the truth is I'm not picking up the bill, I won't be putting my hand in my pocket for a penny of it.'"

The bill is always someone elses problem Seanie.

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"As for Sean, he is rarely in Ireland now. He is away most of the time in Spain and elsewhere. How could he ever live here in peace again?"



http://www.independent.ie/national-news ... 88292.html

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:40 am 
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http://edition.cnn.com/2012/04/16/busin ... index.html

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The sky is overcast, the wind is howling, and - like every day in Ireland - lashing rain could come at any moment.
Yet Sam Hopkins is walking on a sunbeam.
This summer, Hopkins will be working in London for a firm managing the 2012 Olympic summer games. The position is a major coup for the Dublin Business School student, largely because the prospects in Ireland are dim.
"It's quite limited," Hopkins explains. "We're such a small country, we do have certain events, but they are on such a small scale compared to other countries."

Finding a job in Ireland, Hopkins says, can be a difficult task - especially for young adults. The Irish economy is in the toilet. Double digit unemployment, high government debt and a glut of unoccupied housing have silenced the roar of the Celtic Tiger, and left many of its cubs struggling to find employment.
"I've had a few interviews and things but it's really, really tough," says Dublin City University Masters Student Owlen Sheedy. "There are an awful lot of masters students going for the jobs in Ireland at the moment, and it's very difficult for us with just degrees to get a job."
For those without degrees, the job search is even harder....


Later...

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Overwhelmingly on blogs and other online postings, young Irish adults express anxiety about their country's economy, and seem ready to embrace better financial opportunities abroad.
Yet others, like recent college graduate Sinead Donlon, seem to view emigration as a chance to add some excitement to life. Donlon plans on moving to England to live with her cousin. Trained as a personal care assistant, Donlon says she's looking for bar work in London as a way to meet new people.
"I did special needs assistance and I'm qualified in that, but there's no jobs for that at the moment [in Ireland]," Donlon says.
Asked if she thinks whether there might be jobs in her field in London, Donlon pauses for a moment before laughing.
"Yeah, I didn't really think about that!" Donlon says.


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