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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:04 am 
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Indeed I do, please explain your point


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I've updated my comment.

So care to expand your illogic tripe?


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I don't see any new content perhaps you could indulge me with your latest ramblings?


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So you can't back up your argument.

I guess it's back to your gender fluidity and cats with you.


I think you are a troll, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt

Given the default of a collapse in EU-UK negotiations, probably because of the failure of the UK to honour its commitments, explain to me how imports will drive the EU to change its position?


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 12:07 am 
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Bjorn again wrote:
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Indeed I do, please explain your point


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I've updated my comment.

So care to expand your illogic tripe?


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I don't see any new content perhaps you could indulge me with your latest ramblings?


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So you can't back up your argument.

I guess it's back to your gender fluidity and cats with you.


I think you are a troll, but I will give you the benefit of the doubt

Given the default of a collapse in EU-UK negotiations, probably because of the failure of the UK to honour its commitments, explain to me how imports will drive the EU to change its position?



Please get your quotes right.

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:18 am 
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https://tradingeconomics.com/united-kingdom/gdp

Its intuitive that the EU/EEC whatever you want to call it has been a boon for the UK since 1973
To leave it when growth before '73 was so anaemic is to take a large punt into the unknown

German exports to future potential UK markets have grown exponentially over the years as they have something to sell

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-germa ... SKBN1622SO

As part of the EU Germany has succeeded so whats the UK issue?

In short they have nothing to export and BREXIT will not change that deficit


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 10:15 am 
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It will be very interesting to see how tomorrow pans out.
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Im beginning to get to feel sorry for the brits having Davis in charge

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:16 am 
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Bjorn again wrote:
As part of the EU Germany has succeeded so whats the UK issue?

In short they have nothing to export and BREXIT will not change that deficit


The official line from the leavers is now that "of course Brexit will be bad for the economy and we always said it would be but red white and blue freedom strong and stable LOVELY BLUE PASSPORTS". This is, of course, a lie; the leave campaigns repeatedly said that Brexit would be good for the economy. But in the minds of many leavers, now, the economic damage doesn't matter if they can get rid of some foreigners, have a nice blue passport which they won't be able to use because sterling will be worthless, and impose compulsory morris dancing.


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:51 am 
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I think it fitting that the DUP as the most virulent exponents of British supremacy are now attached to the Brexit government, it gilds the whole fiasco with a certain symmetry, unmasks the primal instinct of a nation more used to dictating than compromise.

I don't know if the UK has to fail utterly before it accepts its new place in the world.

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 11:56 am 
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Worstpigeon wrote:
Bjorn again wrote:
As part of the EU Germany has succeeded so whats the UK issue?

In short they have nothing to export and BREXIT will not change that deficit


The official line from the leavers is now that "of course Brexit will be bad for the economy and we always said it would be but red white and blue freedom strong and stable LOVELY BLUE PASSPORTS". This is, of course, a lie; the leave campaigns repeatedly said that Brexit would be good for the economy. But in the minds of many leavers, now, the economic damage doesn't matter if they can get rid of some foreigners, have a nice blue passport which they won't be able to use because sterling will be worthless, and impose compulsory morris dancing.



The official line? That's new to me.

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:29 pm 
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Brit's have caved already - over the timetable..
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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:43 pm 
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It hints at a desire for a softer Brexit. It also provides smarties for getting the vote through the EU national governments.

If I were a betting man, I'd say Norway/Iceland-style coming up. Though they could surprise us all and go full gangnam...

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:01 pm 
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Reinforcing the "caved" theory......

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U.K. blinks first in Brexit talks | Britain’s chief negotiator yesterday agreed to delay talks on the U.K.’s future trade deal with Europe until a pact has been reached on the terms of the divorce — including how much Britain has to pay to settle its accounts. That matters because the U.K. will now have to make financial commitments before it knows just what kind of trade accord the EU is willing to grant it in return.


https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/arti ... mpaign=bop


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:19 pm 
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You don't want to risk the Eurosceptic UKIP voters during an election by sounding soft on your negotiation position. The way they folded on the first day means they were never going to go to the matt over this issue.

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 10:43 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:43 am 
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@Thargor
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You can fool all of the people, all of the time if you're a PR company?

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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:05 am 
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Supposedly FG bounced a few ideas off the Tories ahead of the last General Election when they pitched their Keep the Recovery Going line. Didn't go well, you'll recall, despite having a decent argument that they had steadied the ship. People want something forward-looking - hence Bertie's A lot done; more to do mantra.


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 Post subject: Re: Britain leaving the European Union.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:10 am 
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Looks like the Queen's Speech will have to proceed in the absence of a deal between the DUP and the Tories (who are outraged that the DUP have views on matters outside Ulshter; and outraged by that nature of those views).

A deal may be done before a vote in the House of Commons on the Queen's Speech but, if not, then what?! If another election is needed, do the Brexit talk pause (throwing the already-tight timetable out the window)?


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