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 Post subject: Re: Microsoft Could Be Obsolete By 2017: Gartner Report
PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:30 pm 
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Ahem. Back to the death throes of Microsoft. They cancelled their Certified Master and Certified Architect programmes on Friday. These are exams for their technical elite, most major enterprise software vendors like RedHat Linux, Cisco, VMware and Oracle run similar programmes (none of whom have cancelled theirs). Microsoft's covered Exchange, Sharepoint, SQL and Lync.

So if you're currently a budding member of said technical creme-de-la-creme, which vendor platforms do you imagine you will avoid specialising on in the future?

I can see major ramifications from this to their server/business side. Crazy move which seems to be designed to save the Microsoft Learning business a few million a year but could end costing them hundreds of millions in lost revenue into the future. When you add in the sudden cancellation of TechNet subscriptions, it's like MS are trying really hard at the moment to piss off their enterprise partner base. I think there's a certain amount of desperation and panic occurring and they must feel they need to be seen to be doing something that looks like reorganisation but I seriously doubt dismantling some core components of the most profitable part of their business is the right way to go about it.

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 Post subject: Re: Microsoft Could Be Obsolete By 2017: Gartner Report
PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:06 am 
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Suggestion in this article that it is a more sinister ploy by Microsoft to "deskill" on-premises IT pros in a bid to boost take up of their cloud offerings. Trying to adopt a Google strategy essentially.

Hard to know where to begin with how crazy a strategy that is.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:40 pm 
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wii4miinow wrote:

Basically the minutes of a meeting should be agreed contemporaneously AT THE MEETING.

Not in a month, or two months or whenever the next meeting occurs.



He who writes the minutes is king!!!


There will be more and more business putting their core infrastructure in to hosted environments negating the need for expensive IT staff in-house. The requirement for highend IT talent will be the reserve of the DataCentres and the likes of the service providers

I'm working in 50 user site with not a single server in house, we can be working off 10 year old desktops, macs, iPads, Android etc ... same user experience everywhere. We replaced 5 ESX hosts running about 15 VMs with an empty room save for an internet connection and switching.


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 Post subject: Re: Microsoft Could Be Obsolete By 2017: Gartner Report
PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 11:55 am 
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While tablet and smartphone sales surge, Google have been quietly taking significant laptop market share from Microsoft.

Chromebook sales surge during holidays — raising big questions for Microsoft

http://venturebeat.com/2013/12/28/chrom ... microsoft/

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Yesterday, ComputerWorld first noted Amazon.com’s Thursday announcement that a pair of Chromebooks — Samsung‘s Chromebook and the Acer C720 Chromebook — came in as two of the three best-selling notebooks during the U.S. holiday season. The third was Asus‘ Transformer Book, a Windows 8.1 device that can alternate between a 10.1-inch tablet and a keyboard-equipped laptop.

When VentureBeat checked just now, that Amazon ranking was still in place. And in fourth and sixth places are more Chromebooks: the HP Chromebook 14, and the Acer C720P Chromebook.

Google is doing with its Chrome OS for PCs what it did with Android for smartphones: It’s licensing its operating system to manufacturers essentially for free in the interest of spreading web-based devices that help Google to serve more web-based advertising.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:17 pm 
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Microsoft Q1 profit falls 13 percent, weighed down by Nokia unit - -> http://www.cnet.com/news/microsoft-divi ... ia-losses/

Microsoft Smartphones Drop Nokia Name - -> http://www.informationweek.com/mobile/m ... id/1316955


Finnish PM: Apple has DESTROYED FINLAND - -> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/10/14 ... d_finland/

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The Prime Minister of Finland has claimed that Apple destroyed his country's biggest industry: mobile phone manufacturing.
As if that wasn't bad enough, Alexander Stubb went on to say that Cupertino had also annihilated the paper-making industry, which was his nation's other pride and joy.
However, a leading Finnish analyst has rubbished the PM's claims, telling us that Nokia "committed suicide".
As for the paper industry? Well, that seems a little too silly an accusation for anyone to take very seriously, unless you seriously think the iPad is the one device that finally brought about a paperless world.
"We have two champions which went down. One could say that the iPhone killed Nokia and the iPad killed the Finnish paper industry, but we'll make a comeback," Prime Minister Alexander Stubb said.
"We just have to keep at it."
However the analyst John Strand questioned this reading. "Apple didn’t kill Nokia," he said. "Nokia committed suicide. It's all about mismanagement.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 5:36 pm 
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wii4miinow wrote:
Now, it seems they are up to their own tricks with Windows 8.



I've Win 8 on my work laptop.
Words can't explain how much I despise it.
Maybe in the future my attitude towards it will change, but for the moment, I feel a hatred the instant I turn the computer on.

Why oh why did they ditch the 'start' button ?


Couldn't agree more,even the most basic of tasks requires a Google to see how to do it,its looks OK but is essentially soviet in user intuitiveness,despise is indeed the correct word for how I feel about it am Microsoft.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 6:31 pm 
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What fool decided to drop the Nokia brandname? I don't think they understand the market.
Nokia as a brandname still has huge value. The I.T. grunts of the world still have fond memories of their unbreakable ThinkPad and Nuclear-winter proof Nokia phone. At least Lenovo kept their brandname.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 6:34 pm 
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dipole wrote:
What fool decided to drop the Nokia brandname? I don't think they understand the market.
Nokia as a brandname still has huge value. The I.T. grunts of the world still have fond memories of their unbreakable ThinkPad and Nuclear-winter proof Nokia phone. At least Lenovo kept their brandname.

Yep and the rush to smartphones is ignoring a large segment of the market... one that, I'd say, buys Nokia for that bulletproofness.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2014 7:10 pm 
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yoganmahew wrote:
dipole wrote:
What fool decided to drop the Nokia brandname? I don't think they understand the market.
Nokia as a brandname still has huge value. The I.T. grunts of the world still have fond memories of their unbreakable ThinkPad and Nuclear-winter proof Nokia phone. At least Lenovo kept their brandname.

Yep and the rush to smartphones is ignoring a large segment of the market... one that, I'd say, buys Nokia for that bulletproofness.



Think how long an old-skool Nokia would run off of a smartphone battery?

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is it just me, or would the bulletin board software (such as what this site uses) or VBB software be better for business* than splashing out on office 365 where its impossible to find any past discussions and uploaded documents?


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 Post subject: Re: Microsoft Could Be Obsolete By 2017: Gartner Report
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Thing Fish wrote:
is it just me, or would the bulletin board software (such as what this site uses) or VBB software be better for business* than splashing out on office 365 where its impossible to find any past discussions and uploaded documents?


* only visible to registered users


There've been repeated attempts to push discussion boards and other social network-y things for business (you may remember Yammer, which was fashionable for a year or so early in the decade, and was then bought by Microsoft). I think the only thing in that line that's had any long-term success are mailing lists and wikis (both commonly used in software companies, especially). Slack and similar have some aspects of the same thing going on.

Personally, I think a bulletin board could be very helpful in a whole variety of businesses, but it hasn't caught on as yet. Business practices are very trend-driven, though; we might see it come in at some point. (I'm still waiting for the open-plan thing to die as a trend...)


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 6:00 am 
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Slack is "just" a well implemented, dynamic bulletin board with better features and integrations.

You could run the Propertypin as a bunch of Slack channels and it would probably function better, apart from the search limits on the free version and maybe some moderation tools.

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Is this the thread to discuss what a steaming pile of excrement MS Sharepoint is ?

If I live to be a hundred, I will never understand why it has such universal appeal to Pointy-Haired-Bosses :sick:

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Is this the thread to discuss what a steaming pile of excrement MS Sharepoint is ?

If I live to be a hundred, I will never understand why it has such universal appeal to Pointy-Haired-Bosses :sick:

I feel your pain.

The only thing worse is Sharepoint365 :(

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I concur, it's awful. The only thing worse I've used is Lotus Notes team rooms or whatever it was called.

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