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 Post subject: Belgrove Park, Clontarf
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 8:10 am 
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In 2000, planned prices were
three-bedroom units around €381k [£300k]
two-bedroom units for €317k [£250k]
one-bedroom units for €241k [£190k]
http://www.independent.ie/unsorted/prop ... 66241.html

though development wasn't built until after 2002 (perhaps in 2004, I think)
http://www.independent.ie/unsorted/prop ... 88860.html

166 Belgrove Park (3-bed?) was asking €715k at one stage
viewtopic.php?t=2849&highlight=belgrove

119 Belgrove Park (3bed/3bath) now €295k
http://www.adverts.ie/property-for-sale ... n-3/454165
137 Belgrove Park (3bed/2bath/duplex/91sq m) now €299k
http://www.daft.ie/searchsale.daft?id=609955
138 Belgrove Park (3bed/2bath/duplex/98sq m) now €350k
http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochu ... n-3/353020
134 Belgrove Park (2bed/2bath/65sq m) now €270k
http://www.daft.ie/searchsale.daft?id=604232
140 Belgrove Park (2bed/2bath/77sq m) now €270k
http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochu ... rf/1652806

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 Post subject: Re: Belgrove Park, Clontarf
PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 8:56 am 
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mambo wrote:
119 Belgrove Park (3bed/3bath) now €295k
http://www.adverts.ie/property-for-sale ... n-3/454165


119 Belgrove Park
Sold 10 Sep 2012
€310,000
http://www.propertypriceregister.ie/

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 Post subject: Re: Belgrove Park, Clontarf
PostPosted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 2:31 pm 
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168 Belgrove Park
Was asking 475k, 435k, 395k, 355k
http://www.collapso.net/HistoryMyHome/132123.html
Sold for 280k (-195k, -41%)
http://propertypriceregisterireland.com ... and-68093/
121 sqm / 1,302sqft, "end terrace, 3 storey, 3 bedroom, town house"
http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochu ... -3/2282805
280k selling price equates to €215/sq ft

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 Post subject: Re: Belgrove Park, Clontarf
PostPosted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:09 am 
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131 Belgrove Park, "three bedroom 2nd floor apartment"
280k
http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochu ... -3/2519337
c. 82 sq m = c. 882 sq feet => €317/sq ft
47% more expensive per sq ft than 168 Belgrove Park which sold in March :shock:

For comparison, a similar sized house, with similar condition, BER: 42 Sea Park Drive, Clontarf
3 bedroom house, 92 sq m, asking 430k
http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochu ... -3/2519447
€434/sq ft, €150,000 more(!), main differences are that it has a garden, and no hefty annual maintainance fee (I believe this is c. €3000 p.a. for a Belgrove Park 3-bedroom apartment!)
That said, the 150k extra would pay 50 years of maintainance fees!

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 Post subject: Re: Belgrove Park, Clontarf
PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2013 11:55 am 
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111 Belgrove Park
http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochu ... -3/2488047
€329,000 - 3 Bed House 133 m² / 1432 ft²
€229/sq ft

115 Belgrove Park
http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochu ... -3/2413654
€298,000 - 3 Bed Apartment 94 m² / 1012 ft²
€294/sq ft

Quite a variance in asking prices per sq ft being asked at the moment (229/294/317).

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 Post subject: Re: Belgrove Park, Clontarf
PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:09 pm 
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88 Belgrove Park sold for 179k
http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochu ... -3/2278150
http://propertypriceregisterireland.com ... and-72295/
2 bed ground floor apartment
One parking space included
62.63 m² / 674 ft² -> €265/sq ft

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 Post subject: Re: Belgrove Park, Clontarf
PostPosted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:23 pm 
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70 Belgrove Park
Was 200k
http://www.collapso.net/Sale-Property/s ... ?id=717635
Now 190k (in reaction to sale of #88 for 179k?)
http://www.daft.ie/searchsale.daft?id=717635
Ground floor, 2-bed, 1-bathroom apartment, BER C2, one underground parking space included

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 Post subject: Re: Belgrove Park, Clontarf
PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:57 pm 
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mambo wrote:
131 Belgrove Park, "three bedroom 2nd floor apartment"
280k
http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochu ... -3/2519337
c. 82 sq m = c. 882 sq feet => €317/sq ft
47% more expensive per sq ft than 168 Belgrove Park which sold in March :shock:


Another comparison...

Here's a mews house in Clontarf, 83 sq m, 3 bedrooms, so similar size/spec. Very small patio "garden".
http://www.daft.ie/searchsale.daft?id=728266
Asking 390k, so an extra 110k just to have a "house" rather than an "apartment".

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 Post subject: Re: Belgrove Park, Clontarf
PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 3:49 pm 
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140 Belgrove Park had been asking 330k in 2009/2010
http://www.irishpropertywatch.net/viewS ... ite=myhome

Then, in Feb 2012
mambo wrote:
140 Belgrove Park (2bed/2bath/77sq m) now €270k
http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochu ... rf/1652806


140 Belgrove Park just sold for 199k
http://propertypriceregisterireland.com ... and-78465/

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 Post subject: Re: Belgrove Park, Clontarf
PostPosted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:29 pm 
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mambo wrote:
111 Belgrove Park
http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochu ... -3/2488047
€329,000 - 3 Bed House 133 m² / 1432 ft²
€229/sq ft


Now up to 359k
http://www.daft.ie/searchsale.daft?id=731100

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 Post subject: Re: Belgrove Park, Clontarf
PostPosted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 4:53 pm 
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mambo wrote:
70 Belgrove Park
Was 200k
http://www.collapso.net/Sale-Property/s ... ?id=717635
Now 190k (in reaction to sale of #88 for 179k?)
http://www.daft.ie/searchsale.daft?id=717635
Ground floor, 2-bed, 1-bathroom apartment, BER C2, one underground parking space included


Sold for 185k
http://propertypriceregisterireland.com ... and-86986/
These are renting at about 1250pm, giving a reasonable 8% gross yield.

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 Post subject: Re: Belgrove Park, Clontarf
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 4:10 pm 
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mambo wrote:
131 Belgrove Park, "three bedroom 2nd floor apartment"
280k
http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochu ... -3/2519337
c. 82 sq m = c. 882 sq feet => €317/sq ft
47% more expensive per sq ft than 168 Belgrove Park which sold in March :shock:

For comparison, a similar sized house, with similar condition, BER: 42 Sea Park Drive, Clontarf
3 bedroom house, 92 sq m, asking 430k
http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochu ... -3/2519447
€434/sq ft, €150,000 more(!), main differences are that it has a garden, and no hefty annual maintainance fee (I believe this is c. €3000 p.a. for a Belgrove Park 3-bedroom apartment!)
That said, the 150k extra would pay 50 years of maintainance fees!


131 Belgrove Park didn't sell in 2013 at 280k
Now asking 340k, up 60k/21%
http://www.myhome.ie/residential/brochu ... -3/2519337
I viewed it in 2013. Felt main living space (kitchen/living room in one) was very small for a 3-bedroom property, though it did have attic space for storage, which is unusual for an apartment.

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 Post subject: Re: Belgrove Park, Clontarf
PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:58 pm 
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Interesting Mambo, thanks for your posts. Does anyone know what this development is like to live in - is it mainly owner occupier or rented? It seems that there are a number of apartments sold over the last few years - any ideas what is causing this? Any ideas why the management fees are so high?!!!


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 Post subject: Re: Belgrove Park, Clontarf
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:58 pm 
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Interesting Mambo, useful info :-) Any idea what these apartments are like to live in? Are they mainly owner occupier or tenanted? Seems like high management fees - any ideas what is driving this? And also seems like a lot of sales within this development - any ideas why?

Thanks in advance :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Belgrove Park, Clontarf
PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:49 pm 
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130 Belgrove Park (3 bed apartment) was asking 325k
http://www.collapso.net/Sale-Property/p ... ?id=934781
Sold for 354,500
http://propertypriceregisterireland.com ... nd-116883/

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