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 Post subject: Re: PAN-CHAOS - Libya > Egypt > Syria > Iran > Iraq > US
PostPosted: Sun Dec 25, 2016 7:45 pm 
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Syria is WW3. End.

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 Post subject: Re: PAN-CHAOS - Libya > Egypt > Syria > Iran > Iraq > US
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Nukes exploding on others territories are not the opening act in world war III. They were the last act in World war II against large civilian population centres and no doubt would have been dropped on Dresden or other German cities had they been available. During the cold war nuclear tests were confined to remote islands and deserts, civilians in the vicinity of these tests suffered the direct long term health effects. The cold war end game saw treaties put in place to reduce the number of nuclear weapons and some of these treaties were broken during the reign of George Bush II whose unwise actions have uncorked the kinetic war in the middle East. You should be well used to Trumps strategy by now, open with a big offer and then roll back in the negotiations with what you really want and both sides can walk away with something from the deal. The United States remains the only country to have ever used nuclear weapons directly against civilians in war. Large scale nuclear weapons only tactical use is in scorched earth policy to deny an advancing enemy use of resources in captured territory, however their primary role is that of weapons of terror used to scare civilian populations into compliance by their own governments. Anyone who thinks nukes act as a deterrent to war learned nothing from the actions of Churchill and Bomber Harris over Germany, not only did the bombing raids not stop the war, they likely extended it by forcing the enemy to disperse their war production over a wider area which only came to a stop when the transport infrastructure got destroyed. The ruling megalomaniacs (Churchill, Hitler, Roosevelt, Stalin, Hirohito, Chiang Kai Shek, Mao Zedong) remained in power, none were successfully overthrown by their own populations as a result of destruction of civilian population centres. Mutually assured destruction only stops the major powers from direct military attacks on each other, it has never stopped nuclear powers engaging in combat via diplomacy (i.e. the UN) or proxy wars that draw in the rest of the world. You see this in Africa (Competition for resources in traditional Western colonies vs China), The Middle East (West vs China competition for resources), The Ukraine (Russian backed kleptocrats Vs Western backed kleptocrats) and the South China Sea (US allies vs China building up bases, with North Korea as Chinas sabre rattling proxy) and thrown into this quagmire the Muslim populations reaction to modernity which sees unification under the Caliphate as the answer.


World War II did not start in 1939, that was the final conflagration in the war, the war was well under way from the mid 1930s most visible in the foreign parities involved in the Spanish civil war (testing weapons and tactics) and the Japanese conquest of Manchuria (with backing for the Chinese from Western powers). Increased military spending and economic sanctions were also a prelude to the final conflagration (1939-1945).


Putin is an insider (ex-KGB) from the Soviet regime, as the leader of a country whose wealth is based on resource extraction, he sees power in terms of territory held and for him land is power. His brand of Russian nationalism seeks to regain the territories of "near Russia" as an antidote to reform of the Russian bureaucracy and dependence on resource extraction. If you compare the Russian and Chinese ruling regimes to the disintegration of socialism in their countries, you can see that the Chinese adopted a sit back and let the people get on with it approach to economic development while they kept power, law and order, their people built their own enterprises and have been very successful, the Russians still have the old Soviet bureaucratic overhead interfering in their citizens lives and now that the price of those resources has fallen in the current cycle and an economic blockade has been enforced, the Russian regime has turned to nationalism as a distraction from it's lack of reform and are able to play on that paranoia using examples from their history such as invasions of Napoleon and Hilter from the West. In order to cover his back Putin has had to make some cut price deals with the Chinese leadership and long term that is something the Russians will have to deliver on as the Chinese seek to reinvigorate the silk road mainly to get resources out of central Asia. For now Russia and China are mutual allies under the umbrella of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation.

From what I see Trump has no interest in expanding wars (he also has too many significant domestic enemies to contend with, Putin does not) and is protectionist in outlook, the faction of the government military industrial complex that has backed him also sees the policy pursued by the previous administrations in the middle east and against Russia as fruitless. They see China as the real long term threat to their interests and would prefer to orientate themselves to a policy of containment rather than direct confrontation. Trump also sees countries like Germany, Britain, France and Japan as getting a free ride with subsidised American military protection while at the same time undermining American domestic industries, especially with trade barriers. The EU and US are currently engaged in an undeclared trade war that involves American corporations (Apple, Facebook, Google) versus German corporations (Volkswagen, Duetchebank), under Trumps administration what way do you think this is going to go? All governments seek more tax revenue, and EU based governments with moribund economic growth, high unemployment and huge welfare spending (corporate and social) have hit a wall, they can't raise taxes much more (Irish water is fundamentally a tax protest) without significant resistance from their own populations and must enter a period of significant reform themselves, the EU which was meant to be a stabilising political force has become the problem for Europeans by preventing any significant reform by bailing them out members and enforced a failed economic doctrine of negative interest rates and bond buying programs to cover the mess. Who is going to buy Irish sovereign debt when they stop? I said months ago if Clinton wins we fight Russia, if Trump wins we fight among ourselves so far that's the way things are shaping.


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 Post subject: Re: PAN-CHAOS - Libya > Egypt > Syria > Iran > Iraq > US
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Damascus suffers drinking water outage, authority accuses rebels of contaminating water sources - -> http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1025684.shtml

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The drinking water has been out of the capital Damascus for three days, as the authorities accuse the rebels of contaminating the water sources feeding the capital.
The Damascus City Water Supply Authority said in a statement that "terrorist attacks have targeted all water sources feeding Damascus and its surrounding."
It added that the local administration in Damascus is using the reserve water supplies to secure part of the needs of the capital's over five million inhabitants.
It noted that the water supply conditions will get better in the next few days.
Meanwhile, pro-government al-Watan newspaper said the rebels in the Wadi Barada and Ain al-Figeh areas in northwestern Damascus had contaminated the drinking water with diesel.
In return, the authority was keen to deliver the water from the reserve wells.

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Mass graves found in eastern Aleppo, Russia claims - -> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 96066.html





What the Assassination of the Russian Ambassador May Be Telling Us about Erdoğan’s Turkey - -> http://www.fpri.org/article/2016/12/ass ... ns-turkey/


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A more straightforward and plausible explanation may not be difficult to find. Radical Sunni currents are neither new nor unusual in Turkey. They have been part of Turkey’s political underground from the founding of the republic in 1923. Although the Turkish Republic has a long history of suppressing religious movements that challenge the state, it has an almost as venerable tradition of coopting and using fringe or radical illegal elements that can assist the state.

The pattern of state actors recruiting religiously motivated radicals arguably extends back to the pre-republican, late Ottoman period when an embattled Ottoman empire, outgunned and outweighed by the Great Powers, sought to boost its geopolitical heft by mobilizing networks that linked Muslims outside the empire with those inside. These networks ranged from public and non-violent charitable ones and religious brotherhoods to clandestine paramilitary groups.

During the Cold War, the Turkish Republic made use of Islamist and ultra-nationalist radicals to counter Communist and Leftist influence and to combat Kurdish separatism. There was nothing especially unusual about Turkey’s use of these underground groups. States battling severe challenges from non-state actors routinely recruit illegal and extralegal elements such as gangsters and political radicals as allies. By granting illegal but cooperative actors reprieve from prosecution in exchange for performing the “dirty tasks” that the law formally forbids, states acquire proxies that can be effective at rooting out underground threats. Because such arrangements belie the state’s claim to uphold the law and monopolize the legitimate means of violence, however, they cannot be openly acknowledged. And a dangerous tradeoff comes with the blurring of the lines of legality and loyalty. Employees of the state sometimes can begin to identify with and serve the causes of the subterranean organizations they are dealing with.

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After Aleppo, now for a Syria-wide ceasefire, says Putin - -> http://www.thenational.ae/world/middle- ... says-putin

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MOSCOW // The recapture of Aleppo by Syrian regime forces is an important step towards stabilising the war-torn country, Russian president Vladimir Putin said on Friday.

"The liberation of Aleppo from radical elements is a very important part of the normalisation in Syria, and I hope, for the region overall," Mr Putin said in a meeting with defence minister Sergei Shoigu.

"Everything needs to be done for fighting to stop on all Syrian territory," Mr Putin said. "In any case, we will strive toward this."

Mr Putin said that Russia wanted ceasefire talks to take place in Astana, Kazakhstan’s capital, as the location had already been approved by Syrian president Bashar Al Assad and the leaders of the other power brokers in the Syrian conflict – Iran and Turkey.

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US imposes sanctions against Syrian Central Bank chief, cabinet members - -> http://en.apa.az/azerbaijan-politics/do ... mbers.html


Putin, Erdogan discuss Syria over phone - -> http://www.china.org.cn/world/2016-12/2 ... 983851.htm


Turkey calls for air support in battle for Islamic State-held al Bab - -> http://news.sky.com/story/turkey-calls- ... b-10707814

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Turkey has called on the US-led coalition against Islamic State to provide air support to troops battling rebels in the key town al Bab.
The Russian air force carried out airstrikes on Sunday and Turkey said 226 militants had been "neutralised" in its latest operation but troops had been unable to take complete control of the Syrian town.
Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan's spokesman, Ibrahim Kalin, said: "The international coalition must carry out its duties regarding aerial support to the battle we are fighting in al Bab.
"Not giving the necessary support is unacceptable."
Rebels supported by Turkish troops have laid siege to the town for weeks in the "Euphrates Shield" operation launched by Turkey nearly four months ago to sweep the Sunni hardliners and Kurdish fighters from its Syrian border.

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Israeli judicial officials are reportedly mulling over launching a criminal investigation into a corruption case involving Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
According to Israeli media, police received new documents as part of a secret inquiry into Netanyahu’s affairs which persuaded them to demand a full criminal probe. A spokesman for Netanyahu has rejected as nonsensical the allegations which include bribe-taking and aggravated fraud by the premier. Authorities opened the investigation nine months ago. A separate probe is underway in Israel into accusation that Netanyahu’s wife misused state funds.



Benjamin Netanyahu faces 'criminal investigation' over fraud and bribery claims - -> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 97016.html

Israel's Netanyahu 'snubs Theresa May' over UK's role in UN settlements vote - -> http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 96451.html

Israel Threatens to Give Trump ‘Iron-Clad’ Proof Obama Was Behind UN Vote - -> http://news.antiwar.com/2016/12/26/isra ... d-un-vote/

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Spokesmen for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu claim to have come upon “iron-clad information” from several sources which pins last week’s UN Security Council vote, which condemned Israeli expansion of settlements in the occupied territories, on a scheme by the Obama Administration.

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Rebuffing Israel, U.S. Allows Censure Over Settlements - -> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/23/world ... .html?_r=1

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Applause broke out in the 15-member Security Council’s chambers after the vote on the measure, which passed 14 to 0, with the United States ambassador, Samantha Power, raising her hand as the lone abstention. Israel’s ambassador, Danny Danon, denounced the measure, and castigated the council members who had approved it.

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 Post subject: Re: PAN-CHAOS - Libya > Egypt > Syria > Iran > Iraq > US
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 2:30 pm 
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Gareth Porter wrote:
Inquiry Points Toward a Pentagon Plot to Subvert Obama’s Syria Policy
by Gareth Porter, January 07, 2017

Airstrikes by the United States and its allies against two Syrian army positions Sept. 17 killed at least 62 Syrian troops and wounded dozens more. The attack was quickly treated as a non-story by the U.S. news media; US Central Command (CENTCOM) claimed the strikes were carried out in the mistaken belief that Islamic State forces were being targeted, and the story disappeared.

The circumstances surrounding the attack, however, suggested it may have been deliberate, its purpose being to sabotage President Obama’s policy of coordinating with Russia against Islamic State and Nusra Front forces in Syria as part of a U.S.-Russian cease-fire agreement.

Normally the US military can cover up illegal operations and mistakes with a pro forma military investigation that publicly clears those responsible. But the air attack on Syrian troops also involved three foreign allies in the anti-Islamic State campaign named Operation Inherent Resolve: the United Kingdom, Denmark and Australia. So, the Pentagon had to agree to bring a general from one of those allies into the investigation as a co-author of the report. Consequently, the summary of the investigation released by CENTCOM on Nov. 29 reveals far more than the Pentagon and CENTCOM brass would have desired.

Thanks to that heavily redacted report, we now have detailed evidence that the commander of CENTCOM’s Air Force component attacked the Syrian army deliberately.
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U.S. Special Operations Numbers Surge in Africa’s Shadow Wars - Nick Turse -> https://theintercept.com/2016/12/31/u-s ... adow-wars/

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In 2006, just 1% of commandos sent overseas were deployed in the U.S. Africa Command area of operations. In 2016, 17.26% of all U.S. Special Operations forces — Navy SEALs and Green Berets among them — deployed abroad were sent to Africa, according to data supplied to The Intercept by U.S. Special Operations Command. That total ranks second only to the Greater Middle East where the U.S. is waging war against enemies in Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and Yemen.

“In Africa, we are not the kinetic solution,” Brigadier General Donald Bolduc, the chief of U.S. Special Operations Command Africa, told African Defense, a U.S. trade publication, early this fall. “We are not at war in Africa — but our African partners certainly are.”

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"Open Skies Treaty: U.S. and Russia to conduct dueling surveillance flights over Europe and Asia"

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BBC - Turkey's Erdogan warns Dutch will pay price for dispute
The Netherlands will "pay the price" for harming ties after two Turkish ministers were barred from addressing Turkish expatriates in Rotterdam on Saturday, with one of them escorted to the German border. Mr Erdogan said: "We will teach them international diplomacy."


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Looks like the US is turning up the heat on NK
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The US has said its policy of "strategic patience" with North Korea is over, and suggested it may decide to take pre-emptive military action.

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said the option was "on the table" if the threat from the North's weapons programme reached a level requiring it.

During a visit to South Korea, he also said the US was exploring a range of new diplomatic and economic measures.

He also defended the deployment of a US missile system in South Korea.

The move has angered China, but South Korea and the US say the system is needed to defend against North Korea.

Mr Tillerson spoke shortly after visiting the demilitarised zone which divides the two Koreas.

He arrived in South Korea from Japan, where he said that 20 years of efforts aimed at persuading North Korea to abandon its nuclear ambitions had failed.


Sounds like some of the worst fears of a Trump Administration may be about to come true.

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Is the US itching for a proxy war with China/Russia? XX


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2Pack wrote:
I'll try again.

Syria is WW3. End.


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Russia summons Israeli ambassador following its air raid in Syria
BEIRUT, LEBANON (9:57 P.M.) – Israel’s ambassador to Russia has been called in by the Russian Foreign Ministry on Friday to provide clarification on Israel’s air force attack in Syria overnight, a statement by Moscow said, which was also confirmed by Israeli Foreign Ministry according to Haaretz.

The air raid resulted in one Israeli jet being destroyed by Syrian missile defenses according to the Syrian Army’s General Command, as reported earlier today by Al-Masdar News.

It is rare that Israel is called by Moscow to explain its actions in Syria. However, this time, Israel struck positions near Palmyra where Russian forces are embedded with both Hezbollah and the Syrian Army, who are all fighting against ISIS.
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Russian special forces sent to back renegade Libyan general – reports - -> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... der-report

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Deployment may be in support of Khalifa Haftar, whose forces have retaken two oil ports as fighting breaks out again in Tripoli

Russia appears to have deployed special forces to an airbase in western Egypt near the border with Libya in recent days, in a move that adds to US concerns about Moscow’s deepening role in Libya.

The news came as renewed violence broke out around key oil terminals in the east of the country and the capital Tripoli.

US and diplomatic officials said any such Russian involvement might be part of an attempt to support the Libyan military commander, Khalifa Haftar, who suffered a setback on 3 March with an attack by the Benghazi Defence Brigades (BDB) on oil ports controlled by his forces.

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EU reaches out to Russia to broker deal with Libyan general Haftar - -> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... bya-tobruk


IS-held airport captured in Syria - -> http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2017 ... ured-syria

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A US-backed Syrian alliance of Kurdish and Arab militias has taken a military airport in northern Syria held by Islamic State, close to the country's largest dam that may be in danger of collapse.
The Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF), which has driven Islamic State from large swathes of northern Syria, said in a statement it had seized the air base.
It has been battling militants near the Tabqa dam and air base west of the Syrian city of Raqqa in an accelerating campaign to capture Islamic State's stronghold.
The Pentagon said last Wednesday it had for the first time airdropped local ground forces behind enemy lines near Tabqa in a move aimed at retaking the major dam.
Islamic State said on its social media channels that Tabqa dam was at risk of collapse because of air strikes and increased water levels.
Islamic State captured the Tabqa Dam, also known as the Euphrates Dam, which is about 40 km upstream from Raqqa and the air base, at the height of its expansion in Syria and Iraq in 2014.
The United Nations warned this year of catastrophic flooding in Syria from the Tabqa dam, which is at risk from high water levels, deliberate sabotage by Islamic State and damage from air strikes.







State of Great Kurdistan to be Created in Syria and Iraq - -> https://en.insidesyriamc.com/2017/03/24 ... -and-iraq/

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According to the documents at our disposal, the U.S. authorities and the Syrian Kurds reached an agreement past week on the boundaries of the Kurdish autonomy in the territory of Syria, which had been guaranteed to Kurds in case of capturing Raqqa and Al-Tabqah (34 miles to the West of Raqqa). This confirms the reports about the U.S. plans to divide Syria.
In addition, Washington has already defined the boundaries of the new state of the Great Kurdistan on the territory of Syria and Iraq. It is to be created after ISIS defeat and the final collapse of Syrian Arab Republic. According to the U.S. military, Kurds remain the only force capable of defeating ISIS.

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US goes to war. Fires 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles on Homs airfield, Syria.
Putin says it is an 'illegal act of aggression'.


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This is crazy stuff. The media has been reporting with certainty that there was actually a chemical weapon attack, but at this stage it is just as likely to have been a release of chemicals from a bombed rebel weapons factory. Based on what information is available it is impossible to say one way or the other.

It seems to me that Trump is going to be led by the nose into making a lot of crazy decisions.


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