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 Post subject: Re: PAN-CHAOS - Libya > Egypt > Syria > Iran > Iraq > US
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The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small Minority - Nassim Nicholas Taleb -> https://medium.com/@nntaleb/the-most-in ... 1f83ce4e15
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The One-Way Street of Religions

In the same manner, the spread of Islam in the Near East where Christianity was heavily entrenched (it was born there) can be attributed to two simple asymmetries. The original Islamic rulers weren’t particularly interested in converting Christians as these provided them with tax revenues –the proselytism of Islam did not address those called “people of the book”, i.e. individuals of Abrahamic faith. In fact, my ancestors who survived thirteen centuries under Muslim rule saw advantages in not being Muslim: mostly in the avoidance of military conscription.

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The Security Council meets in secret after the arrest of NATO officers in Aleppo - -> http://www.voltairenet.org/article194590.html

BREAKING: At Least 14 US Coalition Military Officers Captured by Syrian Forces in East Aleppo Bunker - -> http://www.globalresearch.ca/breaking-a ... er/5563177

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Fares Shehabi MP, a prominent Syrian Parliamentarian and head of Aleppo’s Chamber of Commerce published the names of the Coalition officers on his Facebook page on the 15th December (emphasis added):

Mutaz Kanoğlu – Turkey
David Scott Winer – USA
David Shlomo Aram – Israel
Muhamad Tamimi – Qatar
Muhamad Ahmad Assabian – Saudi
Abd-el-Menham Fahd al Harij – Saudi
Islam Salam Ezzahran Al Hajlan – Saudi
Ahmed Ben Naoufel Al Darij – Saudi
Muhamad Hassan Al Sabihi – Saudi
Hamad Fahad Al Dousri – Saudi
Amjad Qassem Al Tiraoui – Jordan
Qassem Saad Al Shamry – Saudi
Ayman Qassem Al Thahalbi – Saudi
Mohamed Ech-Chafihi El Idrissi – Moroccan




Turkey’s use of Syrian rebels ‘helped weaken’ Aleppo rebellion - -> http://www.france24.com/en/20161207-syr ... s-analysis
2016-12-07

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Two factors have been decisive this past year. Firstly, Turkey’s military intervention [known as Operation Euphrates Shield], which was carried out with the approval of Moscow, with the official aim of fighting the Islamic State (IS) group. The operation saw Turkish military officials requesting the support of Syrian rebels. In reality, the purpose of Ankara's intervention was to prevent the Kurds from joining their two enclaves, Afrin and Kobane, into a contiguous zone. [Turkey has long maintained that it would not allow Kurdish YPG peshmergas from seizing territory west of the River Euphrates in northern Syria.]

But Turkey’s mobilising of Syrian rebels who originally fought in Aleppo -- moderates and Islamists such as the Noureddine al-Zinki Brigade -- helped weaken the rebellion in Aleppo and thus facilitated the advance of the Syrian army.

The other factor that marked a turning point was the fall of the famous Castello Road to regime forces in July 2016. [Nicknamed “Death Road,” the Castello Road is considered the only route into the rebel bastions of eastern Aleppo and the only means of getting arms and aid into Aleppo’s besieged neighbourhoods]. With fewer rebel factions and no refueling possible, the rebellion found itself on the back foot.

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Turkey continues to press on Al-Bab, ignores Aleppo - -> https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20161 ... es-aleppo/
December 9, 2016

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Turkish warplanes destroyed 10 Daesh targets in northern Syria while rebels backed by Turkey seized control of a highway between the key regional towns of Al-Bab and Manbij, the Turkish army said today.
The military moves are part of Turkey’s almost four-month-old “Euphrates Shield” operation to support the Syrian opposition to secure areas of the Turkish-Syrian border that are deemed to be a national security imperative for Ankara.
The Turkish operation seeks to push back both Daesh militants and Kurdish separatists from the PYD, both accused of being connected to terrorist attacks that claimed the lives of Turkish citizens over the past two years.
Today’s statement from the Turkish military said Turkish jets had destroyed seven buildings and three control points used by Daesh in four different parts of the region.
The onslaught followed a Turkish state media report yesterday that Ankara had sent 300 commandos to northern Syria to reinforce the operation.

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Understanding this Weekend’s Kurdish Terror Attacks in Turkey and the Wave of New McCarthyism - -> https://willyloman.wordpress.com/2016/1 ... carthyism/

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Erdogan engaged in Syria on behalf of what he saw as Turkey’s best interests. His attacks focused on KurdISIS in an effort to keep them from taking a large part of Syrian territory.

This serves his interests in that were the Kurds to carve themselves a piece of Syria that ran along the Turkish border as they had planned, then, Russia could simply cut one deal with the Kurds and run their pipeline from Iran straight to the Mediterranean Sea and Erdogan would be concerned that part of that deal would involve getting Russia to help them steal a part of southern and eastern Turkey for “Northern Kurdistan”

By fighting the Kurds in order to prevent this project creep, Erdogan has made himself and his country a target of the folks who are backing the Greater Kurdistan project and that includes the United States, Israel and their “interests”

This is why there have been 17 terrorist attacks inside Turkey in 2016 alone making them the most targeted nation this year by far.

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Arab Cold War - -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Cold_War

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The Arab Cold War (Arabic: الحرب العربية الباردة ‎‎ al-Harb al-`Arabbiyah al-bārdah ) was a series of conflicts in the Arab world between the new republics led by Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt and espousing Arab nationalism, Arab socialism, and Pan-Arabism and the more traditionalist kingdoms, led by King Faisal of Saudi Arabia.[1] The period of conflict began following the Egyptian Revolution of 1952 and the rise to power of Nasser, and lasted until 1970, when he died, although some think it lasted until the collapse of the Soviet Bloc.[citation needed]

Despite its beginnings during the global Cold War and era of European decolonization, and its links and interactions to that wider Cold War, the Arab Cold War was not a clash between capitalist and Marxist–Leninist regimes. The two sides were Arab nationalist republics, usually quasi-socialist and Pan-Arabist in orientation, and the traditional monarchies, usually with quasi-feudal or rentierist economic structures. The leading Arab nationalist state during this period was Egypt, closely followed by and in competition with Syria (with which Egypt briefly united to form the United Arab Republic from 1958 to 1961). The leading conservative monarchy was Saudi Arabia, with Jordan (and initially Iraq) reluctantly falling in the same but competing camp.[citation needed]

Although in theory, almost all of the Arab states were non-aligned during this period, in practice, the nationalist republics, with the notable exception of Lebanon, were allied to the Soviet Union even as most of them ruthlessly suppressed the communist parties within their countries while the conservative monarchies generally received military help from the United States.[citation needed]

The expression 'Arab Cold War' was coined by American political scientist and Middle East scholar Malcolm H. Kerr, in his 1965 book of that title, and subsequent editions

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Moscow to Host Crucial Meeting With China, Pakistan to Discuss Afghanistan - -> http://www.voanews.com/a/moscow-to-host ... 40094.html

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ISLAMABAD — Russia, Pakistan and China will hold the next round of three-way counterterrorism talks in Moscow December 27, primarily focusing on turmoil-hit Afghanistan.
Russian Ambassador to Islamabad Alexey Dedov disclosed the details in an interview to state-run Pakistani radio.
This will be the third meeting of the “trilateral working group on Afghanistan,” he said, following meetings in Beijing and Islamabad.
“What we see in Afghanistan, unfortunately, is worrisome because it does not bring us optimism. There is a lack of three crucial elements; that is a stable self-sufficient economy, good governance and strong army,” observed Dedov.

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Neocon Panic and Agony - -> http://www.unz.com/tsaker/neocon-panic-and-agony/

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On the external front, the big development is the liberation of Aleppo by Syrian forces. In that case again, the Neocons tried to double-down: they made all sorts of totally unsubstantiated claims about executions and atrocities while the BBC, always willing to pick up the correct line, published an article about how much the situation in Aleppo is similar to what took place in Srebrenica. Of course, there is one way in which the events in Aleppo and Srebrenica are similar: in both cases the US-backed Takfiris lost and were defeated by government forces and in both cases the West unleashed a vicious propaganda war to try to turn the military defeat of its proxies into a political victory for itself. In any case, the last-ditch propaganda effort failed and preventing the inevitable and Aleppo was completely liberated.

The Empire did score one success: using the fact that most of the foreign forces allied to the Syrians (Hezbollah, Iranian Pasdaran, Russian Spetsnaz, etc.) were concentrated around Aleppo, the US-backed Takfiris succeeded in breaking the will of the Syrians, many of whom apparently fled in panic, and first surrounded and then eventually reoccupied Palmyra. This will be short lived success as I completely agree with my friend Alexander Mercouris who says that Putin will soon liberate Palmyra once again, but until this happens the reoccupation of Palmyra is rather embarrassing for the Syrians, Iranians and Russians.

It seems exceedingly unlikely to me that the Daesh movement towards Palmyra was undetected by the various Syrian, Iranian and Russian intelligence agencies (at least once source reports that Russian satellites did detect it) and I therefore conclude that a deliberate decision was made to temporarily sacrifice Palmyra in order to finally liberate Aleppo. Was that the correct call?

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The American Leader in the Islamic State - -> https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... te/510872/

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John Georgelas was a military brat, a drug enthusiast, a precocious underachiever born in Texas. Now he is a prominent figure within the Islamic State. Here’s the never-before-reported story of his long and troubling journey.

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A Pill for ISIS Supersoldiers? Not So Fast - -> http://www.livescience.com/52904-captag ... ainer.html
November 24, 2015

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However, as for the use of Captagon by ISIS, it's also possible that what the fighters are actually taking is not Captagon.
"As far as I know, no one's actually [tested] the stuff that's being sold or manufactured," Rawson said. "My suspicion is that it could likely be meth[amphetamine] that's sold under the name Captagon," he added.

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'We can't kill our way out of this': Experts say a military response is not enough to defeat ISIS - -> http://uk.businessinsider.com/afp-armed ... ay-2016-12

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Like several other terror experts, Hayden, who also once headed the National Security Agency, insisted that until the underlying causes that prompt young Sunni Muslims to join jihadist movements are addressed, the attraction of radical Islam will endure and the ranks of its fighters and leaders will continually be replenished.

Bruce Riedel, a former CIA analyst and counterterrorism expert now with the prestigious Brookings Institution, stressed the limits of what he called a "decapitation strategy" aimed mainly at the leadership of groups like ISIS or Al Qaeda.

"It's not a strategy to address the underlying problems that created Al Qaeda, or the Islamic State, or Boko Haram," he said.

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 Post subject: Re: PAN-CHAOS - Libya > Egypt > Syria > Iran > Iraq > US
PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 12:36 pm 
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I can understand why Saudis and Qataris might want to build a pipeline to Europe and not have to ship their oil+gas hence increasing profits, tho they can as easily go via Iraq or via Israel or Egypt.

I can understand why Iran might want a pipeline to sell to European market (tho they can just build one direct via Turkey like Azerbaijanis did)

I do not understand why Russia would want to support Iran in building a pipeline, hence helping a competitor and decreasing their own influence in Europe. If anything an unstable middle east might lead to higher energy prices which is exactly what Putin needs to avoid the economic wall they are going to crash into sooner or later.

Same goes for US, cheaper gas from Qatar coming into europe means much harder for the US being able to compete on european LNG market with their own exports.


The whole "Syria war is happening because pipelines" argument is downright silly when you actually stop and think for more than a minute about it, but hey do carry on.


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Now they are turning children into bombs! Girl, seven, walks into a Syrian police station to ask to use the bathroom and is blown up when handlers detonate her suicide vest by remote control - -> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... ntrol.html


'Forgotten crisis' leaves 10 million in danger of starvation WARNING: DISTURBING IMAGES - -> http://www.catholic.org/news/internatio ... p?id=72509


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Yemen is on the brink of famine. BBC Arabic reveals exclusive footage of the growing humanitarian crisis in Yemen, where 2 million people are malnourished and over 325,000 children are at risk of starvation.

“If you don't die from an airstrike you die from being ill or starvation. And the hardest way to die is from starvation”, laments Dr Ashwaq Muharram. The war in Yemen has pushed a country which traditionally suffers from a shortage of food to the brink. The city of Hodeida was once prosperous, but airstrikes and conflict on the ground have isolated people in the surrounding villages and forced the closure of hundreds of hospitals. Furthermore, the Saudi-led coalition has blockaded Yemen's ports to prevent the Houthis rearming, resulting in a shortage of supplies, medicine and fuel. Without access to food or healthcare, millions are at risk. Children are those most affected. "I never imagined I would ever see a child like this in Yemen. It scares me that this may be the beginning of famine", says Dr. Muharram. As she watches over her emaciated son, one mother cries, “Although he's alive it's as though he's no longer here.” The extent of this looming disaster is yet to be seen, but what is clear is that if the situation continues, Yemen could lose an entire generation.




WikiLeaks: U.S. Government Armed And Funded Yemeni Forces - -> http://www.westernjournalism.com/just-w ... wide-open/
November 26, 2016

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Dubbed the “Yemen Files,” the leak consisted of 200 emails and 300 PDFs which span from 2009-2015, covering both the tenures of Hillary Clinton and John Kerry as Secretary of State.
The Obama administration has made 42 separate weapons deals with Yemen since 2009, totaling $115 billion, according to a September report from the Center for International Policy.
With Yemen sitting at an important “narrow choke point” for oil trade passing through the Middle East, the war in Yemen was largely strategic, Wikileaks said.
The State Department has warned Obama the U.S. would almost certainly be accused of committing war crimes in the Yemeni conflict by providing logistical and intelligence support to the Saudi-led coalition. The Obama administration has, nevertheless, approved $1.3 billion in arms sales to Saudi Arabia since 2015.

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Emails Show Hillary Clinton Aides Celebrating F-15 Sales to Saudi Arabia: “Good News” - Lee Fang -> https://theintercept.com/2016/02/22/sau ... s-present/
February 22 2016

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The shockingly brutal Saudi air campaign in Yemen has been led by American-made F-15 jet fighters.

The indiscriminate bombing of civilians and rescuers from the air has prompted human rights organizations to claim that some Saudi-led strikes on Yemen may amount to war crimes. At least 2,800 civilians have been killed in the conflict so far, according to the United Nations — mostly by airstrikes. The strikes have killed journalists and ambulance drivers.

The planes, made by Boeing, have been implicated in the bombing of three facilities supported by Doctors Without Borders (Médicins Sans Frontières). The U.N. Secretary General has decried “intense airstrikes in residential areas and on civilian buildings in Sanaa, including the chamber of commerce, a wedding hall, and a center for the blind,” and has warned that reports of cluster bombs being used in populated areas “may amount to a war crime due to their indiscriminate nature.”

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 Post subject: Re: PAN-CHAOS - Libya > Egypt > Syria > Iran > Iraq > US
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The whole "Syria war is happening because pipelines" argument is downright silly when you actually stop and think for more than a minute about it, but hey do carry on.



The primary motive for Western intervention in the Middle East region is always access to oil and gas supplies, particularly for European countries as a counter balance to Russia being the dominant energy supplier, otherwise they would not give a damn who runs the show as long as the oil keeps flowing, and it is not the chief reason the war has dragged on so long. There is also a regional power struggle involving Iran, Saudi Arabia, Israel and Turkey who see the disintegration as an opportunity to seize control of more territory and resources. Long term goal is get the oil and gas flowing to Europe, otherwise why is NATO involved?

Israel has been consolidating it's hold on the Golan and running bombing raids against the Assad regime to further it's interests as well as backing the Kurds. Per the Yinon plan Israel hopes to create a patchwork of weak and divided states in the region that they can play against the other. (divide and conquer).

The United Status is backing the creation of Kurdistan as it's puppet in the region and has been involved in the coup against Turkey. It is also allied with Saudi Arabia and Israel and commands the NATO presence in the region. The United States also has it's Government military industrial complex with their iron rice bowls. They also nominally control a puppet government in Iraq and Jordan.

The Turks are trying to extend it's control down to Mosul in Iraq (oil) and the power regime has been benefiting from the oil smuggled out of the region (shipped to Israel), in addition it needs to stop the development of an independent Kurdistan or at least have it's own puppets in change.

Russia is primarily a resource based economy and has it's own arms industry so their interests are also tied up with oil and gas and the need to secure their southern borders in the Caucasus (and oil pipelines) and not have a constant safe zone for their attackers to retreat to and attack them from. Russia is also part of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation as is Iran nominally.

Saudi Arabia wants to prevent the development of the Shia crescent and exercise control over the region and it's oil and is currently pulverising Yemen with weapons supplied by the United States (the oil for weapons trade). Iran is providing some backing for the Houthis who themselves have evolved to counter the spread of Wahhabism.

Qatar is on the wrong side of the Arabian peninsula and needs to get it's gas to market, shipping gas by boat is expensive.

Then there is Syria whose borders were defined by the Anglo-French Sykes Picot agreement in the aftermath of the defeat of the Ottoman empire (modern day Turkey) and is really a composite of different tribes, ethnicities and religions going back thousands of years, the internal fighting should have mostly burned itself out within two years , but it keeps getting fed from outside.

Iraq is now in the Iranian sphere of influence as is Afghanistan, both of which countries have American and NATO troops stationed in them.

ISIS is a loose canon made up of disaffected Sunni Tribes in the wake of the American conquest of Iraq, it plays off the US empire in a bid to carve out it's own territory in the region. NATO and the US hope to confine the ideology to the desert. Saudi Arabia hopes to use it a a counter balance to the Shias and also to secure the oil in the area (under the guise of a peace keeping force.)

The Egyptian regime is propped up by Saudi Money, that regime are mostly concerned with the insurrection in the Sinai with it's oil and gas resources. Egypt has an uneasy alliance with Israel.


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 Post subject: Re: PAN-CHAOS - Libya > Egypt > Syria > Iran > Iraq > US
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I would say a much bigger concern for most if not all western countries is security and refugees flowing across borders.

Most of these wars around the Middle East are sectarian in nature or geopolitical power plays not so much related to energy resources.
I would say that is far down the list actually.


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I would say a much bigger concern for many citizens of most if not all western countries is security and refugees flowing across borders. The governments of most if not all western are looking after the key interests of vested industry and military engines and thus looking after job no. 1 - taking care of themselves.



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Israel has been consolidating it's hold on the Golan and running bombing raids against the Assad regime to further it's interests as well as backing the Kurds. Per the Yinon plan Israel hopes to create a patchwork of weak and divided states in the region that they can play against the other. (divide and conquer)


In the MSM there is zero mention of Israel and their support for the Saudis and ISIS, its very strange :roll: they just love ISIS in Israel

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The Egyptian regime is propped up by Saudi Money, that regime are mostly concerned with the insurrection in the Sinai with it's oil and gas resources. Egypt has an uneasy alliance with Israel.


Egypt seem to be backing Assad recently so it looks like the Saudi money may stop soon

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Egypt seem to be backing Assad recently so it looks like the Saudi money may stop soon


That's more about re-aligning with Russia, the regime in Saudi is careering towards bankruptcy, the sofa men might might actually have to work for a living now they can't pay the foreign workers who do all the real work there.


Egypt Denies Any Fallout With Saudi Arabia Over Support for Russia in Syria - -> http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/egypt/1.758339

U.S. commanders concerned over recent outreach between Russia, Egypt - -> http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... sia-egypt/

Saudi Arabia sacks labour minister seven months into job - -> http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/saudi ... s-68876579

Saudi Arabia owes billions to private firms after collapse in oil revenues - -> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... l-revenues

What If Saudi Arabia Collapses? - -> https://lobelog.com/what-if-the-state-o ... collapses/


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The primary motive for Western intervention in the Middle East region is always access to oil and gas supplies, particularly for European countries as a counter balance to Russia being the dominant energy supplier, otherwise they would not give a damn who runs the show as long as the oil keeps flowing, and it is not the chief reason the war has dragged on so long. There is also a regional power struggle involving Iran, Saudi Arabia, Israel and Turkey who see the disintegration as an opportunity to seize control of more territory and resources. Long term goal is get the oil and gas flowing to Europe, otherwise why is NATO involved?


Wrong once again, just because you insist on repeating something multiple times does not make it true,

Once again the whole "Syria is a mess because pipelines" makes no economical or geographical or geopolitical sense,
just look at a map pipelines DO NOT HAVE to go thru Syria.

* Iran can build pipeline directly to Turkey which they already border, now that sanctions are being lifted and their billions abroad unfrozen, due to the nuclear agreement (tho' granted things dont look rosy for Iran with Trump in waiting) no need to build thru' Syria. Iran also has option of building north into friendly Azerbaijan which already has pipelines into Turkey via Georgia and is building more right now. Another option is to connect to Turkmenistan hence profiting from transport of Turkmen gas and be eventually connected to a network which China is extended eastwards both thru the Stans and all the way to Pakistani Indian ocean coast.

* Iraq can build directly to Turkey too by going thru' the stable Kurdistan region, already plenty of oil flows in that direction, if anything it can benefit both Iraq and Iraqi Kurdistan

* Gulf states and Saudi can connect via friendly Iraq to Turkey, or alternatively go via Egypt or Israel (both of whom be happy for cheaper energy prices) plus underwater pipeline. If anyone has the money its Saudi, hell the Russians already build longer underwater pipelines so its possible.

And of course lets not forget that pipelines and peace in the middle east is the last thing that Putin wants hence why his bizarre involvement in Syria starts to make sense. If the middle east burns then Russia is back in business. Speaking of pipelines one of Russia's annexed regions in Georgia has borders that seem to move overnight ever closer to the Baku<>Turkey pipeline, there's a thought for you...


"Syria is a mess because pipelines" is downright silly for a multitude of reason, lets not forget that the place started of with peaceful protests which were brutally suppressed, and only after that did Qatar, Saudi, Iran got involved, with US and Russia following later with whole place turning into a clusterfuck. Pipelines is the last of anyones concerns about now.


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As for the rest of your post the if there is a movement for a UN peacekeeping as a solution to the civil war, to keep peace in a ceasefire and provide aid
Who is going to veto it US or Russia? do tell us
Politically the US will not and can not veto it, they might at worst abstain along with China
Russia on the other hand are guaranteed to veto any motion for peace, they already done so today at the UN, clearly showing to the world that they do not want peace.


Like I said several pages back Russia has no intention allowing the UN to get involved and bring this clusterfuck to a peaceful resolution

http://www.france24.com/en/20161218-syr ... -observers

So a question for our resident Putinbots how can we blame the US for this?


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Saudi Arabia owes billions to private firms after collapse in oil revenues - -> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... l-revenues



good luck getting that money!

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The Russian ambassador to Turkey has just been killed

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38369962

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The Russian ambassador to Turkey has just been killed

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38369962

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Gunman was apparently a cop. Fupping hell.


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Does that look like a bullet-proof vest on the victim?

Interesting times for Turkey. Their religious zealot leader has just had a religious zealot (presumably?) kill a super-power's ambassador. As you sow, etc.


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