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 Post subject: Re: The FF Outcasts - Where are they now?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:33 am 
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Doesn't Conor Lenihan look very old? I thought he was maybe mid 40s?


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 Post subject: Re: The FF Outcasts - Where are they now?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:04 am 
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Inis Man wrote:
Should taxpayers pay the pension of Conor Lenihan - pictured below on Red Square (according to the Indo) - now that he is working for Russia instead of Ireland?
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http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/lenihan-has-key-role-in-8bn-plan-for-russias-silicon-valley-3175372.html


Is it just me or does Red Square look a lot like the Grand Canal?


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 Post subject: Re: The FF Outcasts - Where are they now?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:10 am 
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Inis Man wrote:
Should taxpayers pay the pension of Conor Lenihan - pictured below on Red Square (according to the Indo) - now that he is working for Russia instead of Ireland?
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http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/lenihan-has-key-role-in-8bn-plan-for-russias-silicon-valley-3175372.html


Is it just me or does Red Square look a lot like the Grand Canal?

Indeed. They don't really go in for Georgian doors (mock or otherwise) in Moscow. ;)


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 Post subject: Re: The FF Outcasts - Where are they now?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:50 pm 
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Things are getting wierd in the world of FF outcasts:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/co ... 04134.html


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 Post subject: Re: The FF Outcasts - Where are they now?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:59 pm 
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inregionof wrote:
Things are getting wierd in the world of FF outcasts:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/co ... 04134.html



Just in case you forgot who Chris Andrews was, here he is (on the right)

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 Post subject: Re: The FF Outcasts - Where are they now?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:08 pm 
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Here's details on how @brianformerff was outed as @chrisandrewsff:

http://www.independent.ie/national-news ... 97102.html


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 Post subject: Re: The FF Outcasts - Where are they now?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:37 pm 
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Here's details on how @brianformerff was outed as @chrisandrewsff:

http://www.independent.ie/national-news ... 97102.html


The redirection thing is clever.

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 Post subject: Re: The FF Outcasts - Where are they now?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:59 pm 
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inregionof wrote:
Here's details on how @brianformerff was outed as @chrisandrewsff:

http://www.independent.ie/national-news ... 97102.html


The redirection thing is clever.


+1
he was obviously paranoid enough to use the internet cafe, if he'd used the money he spent on the internet cafe on hidemyass.com etc subscription he would have avoided this.

What's his day job now?


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 Post subject: Re: The FF Outcasts - Where are they now?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:17 pm 
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slasher wrote:
evilal wrote:
inregionof wrote:
Here's details on how @brianformerff was outed as @chrisandrewsff:

http://www.independent.ie/national-news ... 97102.html


The redirection thing is clever.


+1
he was obviously paranoid enough to use the internet cafe, if he'd used the money he spent on the internet cafe on hidemyass.com etc subscription he would have avoided this.

What's his day job now?


There's so much that's bizarre in that story: the way that the investigator (pretty transparent to identify, I'd have thought) creates a false identity to entrap another person using a false identity (never has "set a thief to catch a thief" been so apt), the combination of cleverness and sheer doggedness, and then, releasing it to the Sindo because it was evidently not enough to keep it in-house in FF, but required Andrews' public shame and career termination. A morality tale for our time. It would make a fascinating TV documentary, if only the long arms of the O' Callaghan and Andrews clans did not reach so high and wide across RTE and the media in general.


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 Post subject: Re: The FF Outcasts - Where are they now?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:30 pm 
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inregionof wrote:
Here's details on how @brianformerff was outed as @chrisandrewsff:

http://www.independent.ie/national-news ... 97102.html

Interesting how good investigative work can be once you get stuck into "important" people. Do we know who actually carried out and funded this?
Maybe we could recruit him for more useful work.

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 Post subject: Re: The FF Outcasts - Where are they now?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:41 pm 
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gaius wrote:
inregionof wrote:
Here's details on how @brianformerff was outed as @chrisandrewsff:

http://www.independent.ie/national-news ... 97102.html

Interesting how good investigative work can be once you get stuck into "important" people. Do we know who actually carried out and funded this?
Maybe we could recruit him for more useful work.

If you think about it you will figure out who it is behind this. These people are Fianna Faíl insiders so the exposition of truth is rarely high on their list of priorities except when it gets personal. These people couldn't give a fuck about the country.They are only interested in their petty turf wars and career advancement. Gangsters the lot of them and some of the practices involved here are surely borderline illegal?Maybe someone could clarify that. IF for example you were an officer of the court and you employed these tactics (such as impersonation or entrapment) would this kind of carry on not be in contravention of some rule or other?Again,I'd be interested in what any lawyers out there have to say on this.


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 Post subject: Re: The FF Outcasts - Where are they now?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:42 pm 
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gaius wrote:
inregionof wrote:
Here's details on how @brianformerff was outed as @chrisandrewsff:

http://www.independent.ie/national-news ... 97102.html

Interesting how good investigative work can be once you get stuck into "important" people. Do we know who actually carried out and funded this?
Maybe we could recruit him for more useful work.


Chris Andrews isn't important, the phrase using a sledgehammer to crack a nut was rarely more apt.

As for the investigator, you might want to read the article again. It isn't difficult to work it out.

Family rows can be unpleasant, and FF is nothing if not one big family. In the Sopranos or Corleone sense. Only lesson is never get involved with them. Just ignore them and try to pretend they don't exist.


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 Post subject: Re: The FF Outcasts - Where are they now?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:45 pm 
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Nothing illegal about finding out the identity of the twitter account in this case. It shows a disturbing level of paranoia and espionage for something so trivial.


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 Post subject: Re: The FF Outcasts - Where are they now?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 3:47 pm 
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buddygunz wrote:
Nothing illegal about finding out the identity of the twitter account in this case. It shows a disturbing level of paranoia and espionage for something so trivial.


Without wishing to further increase the paranoia, how do we know the identity wasn't provided to the interesting party by a corrupt and IT aware cop and the state of events outlined in the article wasn't invented as a plausible back-story to make it legally defensible?


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 Post subject: Re: The FF Outcasts - Where are they now?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 4:19 pm 
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Absolutely bizarre story. The inference in the article is that the investigator seems to have acted in response to the fact that his wife was the subject of derogatory comments by Andrews. Much as I value loyalty in a husband, it seems unlikely that anyone would go to those lengths simply to defend the honour of a spouse from a random Twitter user. Inclined to agree with Ivor Lott's analysis.


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