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 Post subject: Secondary Schools: Dublin Northside Vs Southside
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 9:25 am 
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Spotted this on schooldays.ie; as I suppose we have to 'think ahead'

Cant believe the difference between the two....

If you were to judge a school by % of children that go on to University (and I know there are other ways to judge them, but this is the first thing I would look at)....

.....then 18 of the Top 20 would be Southside....

As ever.....have been looking at the various websites for the various schools and how they get away with this continuos bloody homage to Edmund Ignatius Rice, all over the websites for the inevitably catholic schools.....when will our kids be able to go to school without religion being forced down their throats....I cant see a single mixed non-denominational secondary school anywhere between the M50 and East Wall, in Dublin 3, Dublin 15, Dublin 7 or Dublin 9.


TOP 20 IN NORTH DUBLIN
B=Boys G=Girls M=Mixed ........ Fee-paying schools in bold.
Type 2012
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Rank 2011
National
Rank % at University

1 Belvedere College, Great Denmark St., Dublin 1 B 18 18 75.1
2 Castleknock College, Castleknock, Dublin 15 B 33 79 69.9
3 Holy Faith Secondary School, Clontarf, Dublin 3 G 49 46 65.0
4 Colaiste Cois Life, Lucan, Co. Dublin M 62 96 61.5
5 St. Dominic's High School, Sutton, Dublin 13 G 63 89 61.0
6 Sutton Park School, Sutton, Dublin 13 M 70 74 60.2
7 Maryfield College, Drumcondra, Dublin 9 G 108 131 63.4
8 St. Fintan's High School, Sutton, Dublin 13 B 125 130 50.0
9 Manor House, Raheny, Dublin 5 G 127 121 49.7
10 Scoil Chaitriona, Glasnevin, Dublin 9 M 128 165 49.7
11 Castleknock Community College, Castleknock, Dublin 15 M 141 155 49.0
12 Mount Temple Comprehensive School, Clontarf, Dublin 3 M 145 168 48.8
13 Colaiste Mhuire, Cabra, Dublin 7 M 156 81 47.6
14 Loreto Secondary School, Balbriggan, Co. Dublin G 161 167 47.0
15 St. Joseph's College, Lucan, Co. Dublin G 163 160 46.9
16 Malahide Community School, Malahide, Co. Dublin M 169 157 46.0
17 Dominican College, Drumcondra, Dublin 9 G 171 163 46.0
18 Ardscoil Ris, Griffith Ave, Dublin 9 B 197 216 44.1
19 St. Aidan's CBS, Whitehall, Dublin 9 B 226 246 41.4
20 Loreto College, Swords, Co. Dublin G 233 237 40.8



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TOP 20 IN SOUTH DUBLIN
B=Boys G=Girls M=Mixed ........ Fee-paying schools in bold.
Type 2012
National
Rank 2011
National
Rank % at University

1 Gonzaga College, Ranelagh, Dublin 6 B 2 1 92.9
2 Colaiste Iosagain, Booterstown, Co. Dublin G 3 4 89.8
3 Holy Child Secondary School, Killiney, Co. Dublin G 4 9 89.1
4 Loreto College, St. Stephen's Green, Dublin 2 G 5 8 87.7
5 Rathdown School, Glenageary, Co. Dublin G 6 16 83.5
6 The Teresian School, Donnybrook, Dublin 4 G 7 3 83.2
7 Mount Anville Secondary School, Goatstown, Dublin 14 G 8 7 82.8
8 Alexandra College, Milltown, Dublin 6 G 9 12 82.3
9 Colaiste Eoin, Booterstown, Co. Dublin B 16 10 76.6
10 St. Andrew's College, Blackrock, Co. Dublin M 20 19 73.3
11 Loreto High School, Rathfarnham, Dublin 14 G 21 17 73.2
12 St. Conleth's College, Ballsbridge, Dublin 4 M 24 43 71.9
13 Muckross Park College, Donnybrook, Dublin 4 G 27 20 71.3
14 John Scottus Secondary School, Donnybrook, Dublin 4 M 28 77 70.9
15 Blackrock College, Blackrock, Co. Dublin B 32 30 70.2
16 Mount Sackville Secondary, Chapelizod, Dublin 20 G 36 34 69.3
17 The King's Hospital, Palmerstown, Dublin 20 M 37 25 69.2
18 Wesley College, Ballinteer, Dublin 16 M 38 49 68.7
19 St. Joseph of Cluny, Killiney, Co. Dublin G 40 21 67.6
20 St. Columba's College, Whitechurch, Dublin 16 M 47 75 65.1


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 Post subject: Re: Secondary Schools: Dublin Northside Vs Southside
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 9:36 am 
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But of course free third-level education made university more accessible to all. :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Secondary Schools: Dublin Northside Vs Southside
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 9:43 am 
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On qualification to this I guess is that there is a much bigger number of schools on the Southside; still though.....


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 Post subject: Re: Secondary Schools: Dublin Northside Vs Southside
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 10:05 am 
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Er...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc
Post hoc ergo propter hoc, Latin for "after this, therefore because of this," is a logical fallacy (of the questionable cause variety) that states, "Since that event followed this one, that event must have been caused by this one."

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 Post subject: Re: Secondary Schools: Dublin Northside Vs Southside
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 10:13 am 
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mambo wrote:
Er...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_hoc_ergo_propter_hoc
Post hoc ergo propter hoc, Latin for "after this, therefore because of this," is a logical fallacy (of the questionable cause variety) that states, "Since that event followed this one, that event must have been caused by this one."



I'm not sure if you are making a point there or not....

....but I think the answer to your question is....

I would be guessing that the population split is 60% southside, 40% northside.

The schools split in the Top 20 is 90% southside, 10% northside....

So translate that into latin, and see what you come up with.


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 Post subject: Re: Secondary Schools: Dublin Northside Vs Southside
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 10:24 am 
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How is Lucan northside but Kings Hospital southside?

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 Post subject: Re: Secondary Schools: Dublin Northside Vs Southside
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 10:33 am 
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YorkieBar wrote:
I would be guessing that the population split is 60% southside, 40% northside.

The schools split in the Top 20 is 90% southside, 10% northside....

So translate that into latin, and see what you come up with.


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Pars est quae coniectura viderer LX% incolarum in meridie ad septentrionem XL%.

Donec sit scisma in scholis XX XC% in meridie ad aquilonem X%...


Unfortunately, the forum software interprets "XX" (20) as the "Irish Patriot" smiley.

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 Post subject: Re: Secondary Schools: Dublin Northside Vs Southside
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 10:40 am 
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ixus wrote:
How is Lucan northside but Kings Hospital southside?


Probably because KH is on the southside and the Lucan school is on the Northside?


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 Post subject: Re: Secondary Schools: Dublin Northside Vs Southside
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 10:41 am 
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What a surprise! The best performing schools on the Northside are in middle-class areas - where property is much more expensive (apart from Belvedere, that is.) Three of the top ten within a mile of each other in Sutton alone! Wonder what the sociolgists and the class warriors (Kieran Allen, Fr Sean Healy, et al) would make of it all? Probably already trying to figure out some way of taxing the parents of all these succesful students so they can be dragged down to the level of, "de most vulernable in society."


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 Post subject: Re: Secondary Schools: Dublin Northside Vs Southside
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 10:43 am 
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ixus wrote:
How is Lucan northside but Kings Hospital southside?


Because Kings Hospital field a rugby team.
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 Post subject: Re: Secondary Schools: Dublin Northside Vs Southside
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 11:03 am 
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YorkieBar wrote:
TOP 20 IN SOUTH DUBLIN

16 Mount Sackville Secondary, Chapelizod, Dublin 20 G 36 34 69.3


This is North of the river.


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 Post subject: Re: Secondary Schools: Dublin Northside Vs Southside
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 11:11 am 
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Very interesting thread YB. Could you post a link to the original source for the stats? Surprised not to see Portmarnock Community School on the northside list. Would also be keen to see figures for other counties, just out of curiosity.

Seems fee-paying schools fare better (for lots of reasons) and most of those are south of the river. That's one of the downsides of setting up camp on the southside: unless you're in a position to pay school fees, the benefits are negligible if you compare with middle-class corners of the north side.


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 Post subject: Re: Secondary Schools: Dublin Northside Vs Southside
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 11:12 am 
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ie_johnc wrote:
YorkieBar wrote:
TOP 20 IN SOUTH DUBLIN

16 Mount Sackville Secondary, Chapelizod, Dublin 20 G 36 34 69.3


This is North of the river.


Must be a postcode thing then.


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 Post subject: Re: Secondary Schools: Dublin Northside Vs Southside
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Ixelles wrote:
Very interesting thread YB. Could you post a link to the original source for the stats?

Stats sourced from here, I think.


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 Post subject: Re: Secondary Schools: Dublin Northside Vs Southside
PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2012 11:31 am 
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YorkieBar wrote:
On qualification to this I guess is that there is a much bigger number of schools on the Southside; still though.....
I'd also check the relative size of the schools. In the 1980s I think Gonzaga had fewer than 80 kids per year and was very selective on academic ability. Given a limited number of places at third level, it's easier to get 90% of 80 there than 90% of 150.


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