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 Post subject: Re: The charity sector thread
PostPosted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 9:20 am 
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More people work in homeless organisations than there are homeless people I've read. Such is Ireland


Lay them off and give each homeless person a job?


But what would they do?


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 Post subject: Re: The charity sector thread
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 11:28 am 
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Good article in the IT on the charity sector
http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/olive ... -1.2905869


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 Post subject: Re: The charity sector thread
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 12:55 pm 
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Jonathan Irwin stepping down as CEO of Jack and Jill Foundation. Not surprising after his bizarre performance on radio when he suggested that the Irish Navy should launch a military assault on Brazil for their temerity to apply their laws to his 'old pal' Pat Hickey.


Good luck with attacking Brazil. Did no one tell Irwin the whole of Ireland could fit into a suburb of Sao Paolo without much planning permission?


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 Post subject: Re: The charity sector thread
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:15 pm 
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Good article in the IT on the charity sector
http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/olive ... -1.2905869


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Celebrities are a major factor too, setting up foundations and societies to boost their egos or even their wallets. Legend has it one Irish TV star is the patron of 65 charities, which is a bizarre form of generosity greed. Dozens of tax exiles too litigious to mention hand over a fraction of what they could contribute in tax and then expect praise for doing so.


Is the above a deliberate dig at HE WHO CANNOT BE MENTIONED?


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 Post subject: Re: The charity sector thread
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 1:26 pm 
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In 2015, a minimum of €95m, ~ €19k for every registered homeless person, was spent by the State on homeless services.
That is nowhere near the full amount though & how much more was donated by the public or willed?
Where does it all go :?:


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 Post subject: Re: The charity sector thread
PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 3:45 pm 
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Matheson stops using charities to help clients avoid tax
Dublin law firm used trusts to provide services to customers including ‘vulture funds’
http://www.irishtimes.com/business/fina ... -1.2959974
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Dublin law firm and corporate tax adviser Matheson has abandoned the use of three registered charities that helped its clients, including some so-called “vulture funds”, to avoid tax on billions of euro of high-risk assets...
...Following political and media pressure, Matheson in November initiated a review of the charities, which collectively operate as the Matheson Foundation. The first stage of that review is complete.
It is understood Matheson applied to Revenue to relinquish the charitable status of Eurydice, Medb and Badb, which were originally registered with the Charities Regulatory Authority (CRA) to “relieve poverty and distress”.
Revenue confirmed it accepts the application and the CRA has now removed the three entities from its published register of charities....
...The second stage of the review – to devise a new charity-giving programme for Matheson staff separate to its trustee shareholder service – is under way. Matheson has committed to maintaining its support of charitable causes.


What says you Observer?


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 Post subject: Re: The charity sector thread
PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:25 am 
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Inis Man wrote:
bonbe80 wrote:
Good article in the IT on the charity sector
http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/olive ... -1.2905869


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Celebrities are a major factor too, setting up foundations and societies to boost their egos or even their wallets. Legend has it one Irish TV star is the patron of 65 charities, which is a bizarre form of generosity greed. Dozens of tax exiles too litigious to mention hand over a fraction of what they could contribute in tax and then expect praise for doing so.


Is the above a deliberate dig at HE WHO CANNOT BE MENTIONED?



The only person who some people think cannot be mentioned is DENIS O'BRIEN of Digicel. But we need to stop calling him and others like him a 'tax' exile. There is no 'tax' exile about it. Such people are simply exiles, no qualification needed, exiles of Ireland, no longer full or proper citizens of our state, no longer to be offered the protections that our country tries to afford each of us on account of our citizenship. And this is why I have written to the Passport Office to see what is required to withdraw the passport from such exiles and replace it with a different form of ID identifying the holder as a non-payer of tax in this country, a secondary citizen shunned by the people who understand that paying tax is central to our claim to be a civilised people. Avoiding tax is the hallmark of a barbarian.


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 Post subject: Re: The charity sector thread
PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:32 am 
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Just to be clear, you believe that someone with an Irish passport who lives, say, in the U.K. should still pay Irish taxes in addition to U.K. Taxes? Or is it that once someone leaves Ireland they're stripped of their citizenship?

The US is actually the only country that I'm aware of that takes the former view, and it's generally regarded as pretty pointless.

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 Post subject: Re: The charity sector thread
PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:58 pm 
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Mantissa wrote:
Just to be clear, you believe that someone with an Irish passport who lives, say, in the U.K. should still pay Irish taxes in addition to U.K. Taxes? Or is it that once someone leaves Ireland they're stripped of their citizenship?

The US is actually the only country that I'm aware of that takes the former view, and it's generally regarded as pretty pointless.

Well, the US view is that you should pay up to US taxes somewhere. So if you pay tax in Ireland, for example, you are paying more than US tax would tax, so your liability is nil. Yet you are afforded the full protection of the US state.

Personally, I have no problem with world-wide income being taken into account, at least at the rates the US charges. If you point me at Irish tax rates from the nineties, I'll have a different view ;)

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 Post subject: Re: The charity sector thread
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:05 pm 
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http://www.thejournal.ie/readme/chariti ... 3-Feb2017/

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'Charities need to stop apologising for investing in infrastructure and that includes CEO salaries'
PEOPLE WHO WORK in the not-for-profit (NFP) sector go to work day in day out with a mission to make extraordinary things happen, to provide hope for refugees, a place called home for families living in B&Bs and to never stop until cancer does. If their “A Day in the Life” was a movie, it would be Mission Impossible.

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Lucy Masterson is the CEO of Charities Institute Ireland (CII). The organisation, formed in November 2016, represents more than 200 of the country’s top charities and works to promote best practices and to restore public trust and confidence in the charity sector.


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 Post subject: Re: The charity sector thread
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:26 pm 
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Look at all those fundraising jobs http://www.charitiesinstituteireland.ie/jobdesk/

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 Post subject: Re: The charity sector thread
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:41 pm 
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Salaries are infrastructure now?

I laughed when I saw that TED talk, I'd seen it before and was stunned by how self-serving it was.

And I love the way that widely criticised behaviour by the private sector is misrepresented for use as justification for enrichment of charity management.

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yet we are more than happy to reward CEOs in the private sector based on their market performance. The CEO of pharmaceutical company Vertex, who manufactures the potentially life altering drug for Cystic Fibroses sufferers, Orkambi, takes home a tidy $45,000,000.


such chutzpah.


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 Post subject: Re: The charity sector thread
PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2017 4:41 pm 
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So the Charities have set up their own lobby group/PR firm in response to all the bad press and the strengthening of the Regulator?
More money!


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 Post subject: Re: The charity sector thread
PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:12 pm 
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The annual lenten campaigns by the charities are underway.

Trocaire, which used to be about helping the starving in Africa (or those who had a trocaire box on their kitchen table in the 80s, 90s, 00s knew).

Now gone full on the climate change bandwagon , as per their recent ad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ym2fSISZbwY

Is trocaire a charity or an indoctrination con?

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“With a climate-sceptic recently inaugurated into the White House, this move by elected representatives in Ireland will send out a powerful message. The Irish political system is now finally acknowledging what the overwhelming majority of people already know: That to have a fighting chance to combat catastrophic climate change we must phase out fossil fuels and stop the growth of the industry that is driving this crisis,” said Éamonn Meehan of Trócaire.

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 Post subject: Re: The charity sector thread
PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:16 pm 
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Like most foreign-aid charities, Trocaire is primarily interested in sustaining its own hulking mass by raising money and spending it.

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