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 Post subject: Re: Shane Ross - not in my back yard.
PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2017 10:43 am 
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How the Indo missed the most significant point is beyond me. Taoiseach Leo Varadkar objected to the development on the grounds that it might lower the value of existing property.

Ah now, it did
[Varadkar said that] the four-storey design model had "long fallen into disfavour" and it would be "grossly insensitive" to permit such "dated architecture to succeed". Mr Varadkar said the apartments would affect "the marketability of treasured homes" in the area.
I suppose Kevin Doyle is the Indo's Political Editor, but he really has taken his title too seriously by changing Leo Varadkar's actual words from...

"...have a negative impact on the market value of homes"

to

"...affect the marketability of treasured homes".

Good job Kevin!
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 Post subject: Re: Shane Ross - not in my back yard.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:42 pm 
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http://www.independent.ie/business/comm ... 53864.html

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Minister Shane Ross opposes eight-floor block next to 14-storey Sandyford tower

While welcoming a proposal for the completion of the 14-storey Sentinel which he said “has been a visible scar on the Sandyford skyline for so long”, Mr Ross has told planners at Dun Laoghaire County Council that the addition of two floors to the six-storey building immediately beside it would “be totally out of sync with the local area”.


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 Post subject: Re: Shane Ross - not in my back yard.
PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:29 pm 
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Is Ireland unique when it comes to politicians opposing development like that? Isnt it the complete reverse everywhere else in the West?


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 Post subject: Re: Shane Ross - not in my back yard.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 14, 2017 9:44 am 
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temene wrote:
Shane Coleman in the Indo - Taoiseach objected to 41 units in Castleknock.
In February 2017, Joan Burton & Leo Varadkar objected to An Bord Pleanala to a 4 storey development on the basis of the "negative impact on the market value of homes" amongst others...

ABP say Yes.. and a commenter points out that Leo lives in a 4-storey block himself!
TheJournal - Plans for apartment blocks objected to by Leo Varadkar and Joan Burton get the go-ahead
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 Post subject: Re: Shane Ross - not in my back yard.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:11 pm 
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The Bradys site in question is less than 10 minute walk from Castleknock Train Station, about 5 minute walk from Blanchardstown Village. If anything, the proposed development is not a high enough density. There may be an argument to be made for limited car parking given the proximity to good transport links and general traffic congestion at peak times, it will limit the pool of potential buyers which in turn should moderate the prices (no bad thing) but it's a model that needs to be introduced in clusters around good public transport links


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 Post subject: Re: Shane Ross - not in my back yard.
PostPosted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:43 pm 
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The Bradys site in question is less than 10 minute ...

We know.
The issue is that politicians are objecting to residential development, mainly because it affects the market value of existing houses and nimbyism.


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 Post subject: Re: Shane Ross - not in my back yard.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:48 am 
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It's not just politicians who object, it is also the State agency who control planning.. on the grounds that it would devalue neighbouring homes.
Galway City Council refused the application to retain and complete the carpark at Lenaboy Gardens on the grounds that it would depreciate property values and increase traffic and noise in the area.
ABP rejected the appeal of this decision stating that it would be incompatible with the zoning of this particular site as well as having an adverse impact on adjoining properties.
http://connachttribune.ie/carpark-plan- ... -site-666/


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 Post subject: Re: Shane Ross - not in my back yard.
PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 8:55 am 
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Stillorgan never struck me as particularly characterful, but Shane is looking out for his constituents' property values again. (Go handy on the LPT mind)


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Fears south Dublin suburb 'would end up like communist Europe' in wake of planned development
May 16 2018

Concerns have been raised that a historic section of a south Dublin town will end up like "communist Europe" in the wake of planned development.

Stillorgan is set to see almost 300 apartments and student accommodation units built after a green light to an extensive development was granted by An Bord Pleanála.

Cairn Homes has been given approval to build 165 student units and 103 residential apartments on the former Blakes and Esmonde Motors sites in the south Co Dublin community.

The plan drew objections from a number of local representatives, including Transport Minister Shane Ross who said development was needed but who opposed the student development.

Now, Independent councillor Deirdre Donnelly, who works closely with Mr Ross, has raised fresh concerns about the planned development and future building in the area.

The councillor said she was "shocked" at the recent decision to give the go-ahead for the development.

There is no room for such a monstrosity in Stillorgan. The student accommodation looked austere and will no doubt dwarf the beautiful street that is The Hill," she said. "My concern is that a developer could end up buying the row of cottages on the other side of the street and we will have nothing but ugly multi-storey grim buildings on both side of what should be a beautiful, historic part of Stillorgan.

"It would end up looking like something from former communist Europe," she added.

"The cottages have historic value as former artisan dwellings in the old village, they have character and define a sense of place.

"There are very few old buildings left in Stillorgan village."


https://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/property-mortgages/fears-south-dublin-suburb-would-end-up-like-communist-europe-in-wake-of-planned-development-36911460.html


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 Post subject: Re: Shane Ross - not in my back yard.
PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 9:29 am 
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Stillorgan never struck me as particularly characterful, but Shane is looking out for his constituents' property values again. (Go handy on the LPT mind)

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 Post subject: Re: Shane Ross - not in my back yard.
PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2018 10:56 am 
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Epicurus wrote:
Stillorgan never struck me as particularly characterful, but Shane is looking out for his constituents' property values again. (Go handy on the LPT mind)
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The councillor said she was "shocked" at the recent decision to give the go-ahead for the development.

There is no room for such a monstrosity in Stillorgan. The student accommodation looked austere and will no doubt dwarf the beautiful street that is The Hill," she said. "My concern is that a developer could end up buying the row of cottages on the other side of the street and we will have nothing but ugly multi-storey grim buildings on both side of what should be a beautiful, historic part of Stillorgan.

"It would end up looking like something from former communist Europe," she added.

"The cottages have historic value as former artisan dwellings in the old village, they have character and define a sense of place.

"There are very few old buildings left in Stillorgan village."


https://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/property-mortgages/fears-south-dublin-suburb-would-end-up-like-communist-europe-in-wake-of-planned-development-36911460.html


The whole area is a dump in fairness, local objections were responsible for the joke massive sprawling one storey shopping centre at the site with massive carpark around it.

If these people want a rural village, they should move down the country.


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