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 Post subject: Ireland BIG DATA centre of the world.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:59 pm 
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http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2016/11 ... nvestment/

This is a statement of intent from Ireland Inc.
The world can introduce whatever regulations they want to protect consumer rights and we'll game those regulations to our own benefit.


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 Post subject: Re: Ireland BIG DATA cetre of the world.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:10 pm 
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dipole wrote:
http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2016/1116/832163-ireland-prime-location-for-big-data-investment/

This is a statement of intent from Ireland Inc.
The world can introduce whatever regulations the want to protect conumer rights and we'll game those regulations to our own benefit.


Who needs the TTIP when you have "the best small country in the world in which to do business" :D


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 Post subject: Re: Ireland BIG DATA centre of the world.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:29 pm 
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And I suppose we'll have a few TD's demanding government investment in carrier grade fiber connections to towns like Ballybrophy to attract 'Jobs and investment' when in reality, once they are built, they employ very few people.

Are commercial rates payable by datacentres, even if they were located in Ballybrophy?


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 Post subject: Re: Ireland BIG DATA centre of the world.
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We were just bemoaning our poor internet speed in the office today. We're close enough to Dublin that we can see the city lights and less than 500 m from a motorway but our fixed line can still only muster a wheeze of 5 MB/s. Of course we can get faster with 4G.

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 Post subject: Re: Ireland BIG DATA centre of the world.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:20 pm 
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They'll have to negotiate the planning laws first. Apple currently still awaiting final permission for their Athenry data centre:

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In February 2015, Apple announced it was investing €1.7 billion in two European data centres, evenly split between Athenry and Viborg, in Denmark.
The news was greeted with joy in Athenry, until now famous only for a song. That one of the the world’s largest companies was planning the single biggest investment ever made west of the Shannon was music just as beautiful to the ears of local residents.
Things soon got a little out of tune, however.
The Danish centre is already half built and Apple is following up on its investment there by signing research partnerships with the local university. But the proposed Athenry data centre remains mired in planning.
The project, which would create up to 300 jobs during construction and about 150 upon completion, finally received the green light from An Bórd Pleanála in August, 18 months after it was announced.
This month, three objectors – two local residents and a landowner based in Wicklow – received High Court permission to seek a full judicial review of the Apple decision.

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/tech ... -1.2845918


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 Post subject: Re: Ireland BIG DATA cetre of the world.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:35 pm 
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johnp002 wrote:
dipole wrote:
http://www.rte.ie/news/business/2016/1116/832163-ireland-prime-location-for-big-data-investment/

This is a statement of intent from Ireland Inc.
The world can introduce whatever regulations the want to protect conumer rights and we'll game those regulations to our own benefit.


Who needs the TTIP when you have "the best small country in the world in which to do business" :D


Ireland's stable climate would have a lot to do with it too. The extremities of our seasonal fluctuations would be quite favourable in terms of temperature and humidity.

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 Post subject: Re: Ireland BIG DATA centre of the world.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 3:47 pm 
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In training about GDPR 2018 for the last two days. It was very depressing as a consumer/citizen.
There will now be nobody beyond the Irish Data Protection Commissioner to escalate a complaint to when your data has been stolen/shared/mis-used.

Any company not setting Ireland as their location for Data Controller or Data Processor will be at a severe competitive disadvantage due to compliance costs and responsibility.
The regulations are perfectly framed for Ireland Inc. to engage in arbitrage in a new regulatory area.

The other attendees assumed that the local data protection commissioner will work toward the interests of the citizens.

Ireland Inc. has this E.U. game sussed; you introduce the laws and we'll make sure that we provide a thin veneer of enforcement.

There is absolutely no chance that Ireland will enforce a fine of 20m euro or 4% of profits on any multi-national who doesn't protect user data.


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 Post subject: Re: Ireland BIG DATA centre of the world.
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dipole wrote:

Ireland Inc. has this E.U. game sussed; you introduce the laws and we'll make sure that we provide a thin veneer of enforcement.



I'm reminded of the Market Surveillance authorities for various EU Directives that have been transcribed into Irish Law, specifically with regards to CE marking.

ComReg who cover the Electromagnetic Spectrum are one of the best resourced authorities. The likes of the HSA, who are supposed to cover the machinery directive, seem to only arrive at Industrial sites after an accident has occurred. There are thousands of machines brought into the country, often times second hand from the US, and you are hoping the employer is applying sufficient due diligence with regards the health and safety of their workers.

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 Post subject: Re: Ireland BIG DATA centre of the world.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:25 pm 
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Wasn't there a similar push for Ireland as a cloud computing center not so long ago? I seem to remember a story about someone touting the weather as an advantage, but I can't remember if that was a fabricated story or not.


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 Post subject: Re: Ireland BIG DATA centre of the world.
PostPosted: Wed Nov 16, 2016 5:34 pm 
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It is not fabricated, it is just over emphasised. These are datacentres with the emphasis on DATA. They are not being used for applications which are CPU bound. There isn't much heat especially now that most enterprise quality storage has moved to solid state.

The companies are coming to Ireland partly for tax reasons (but this shouldn't be over emphasised either as MS, Google and Apple make most of their profits through companies which employ nobody)and very much for a quiet life with a regulator(Data Commissioner) who has been captured by the Industry.

It is near impossible to do "Big Data" and still observe Data Protection legislation as you are collecting data from sources where it was disclosed for specific uses and not the ones which the companies wish to use it for.


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