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 Post subject: Re: Dublin Airport, Illegal Immigration Racketeering Watch
PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:17 pm 
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Is there a property angle or is this yet another immigration thread for the Piston?


FYI, this thread was started in an existing thread within the Piston.

Well HiFi posted it there, then you reposted it here, no?
It's a great story, but I believe we have something like 6 immigration threads already. Which seems high for a property forum. I reckon there's the demand for an immigration forum site, given how many threads get started about it here.

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I guess the admins thought it was newsworthy, some of our lives may depend on this.


Our lives may depend on reading about immigrants being smuggled through an Aer Lingus food truck?

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 Post subject: Re: Dublin Airport, Illegal Immigration Racketeering Watch
PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:25 pm 
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It surely has some relevance to the Brexit situation and the Common Travel Area, hard/soft border issue I would have thought


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 Post subject: Re: Dublin Airport, Illegal Immigration Racketeering Watch
PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:35 pm 
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Our lives may depend on reading about immigrants being smuggled through an Aer Lingus food truck?


Is that your best Jon Stewart impersonation :?:

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 Post subject: Re: Dublin Airport, Illegal Immigration Racketeering Watch
PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:47 pm 
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Thing Fish wrote:
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Our lives may depend on reading about immigrants being smuggled through an Aer Lingus food truck?


Is that your best Jon Stewart impersonation :?:

Not as good as your Jack Ryan impression, granted.

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 Post subject: Re: Dublin Airport, Illegal Immigration Racketeering Watch
PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:55 pm 
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Population movements have no relevance on demand for housing, competition for jobs or access to services. We learned it here first in this thread. Tonight. It was staring at us all along.


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 Post subject: Re: Dublin Airport, Illegal Immigration Racketeering Watch
PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 11:58 pm 
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Population movements have no relevance on demand for housing, competition for jobs or access to services. We learned it here first in this thread. Tonight. It was staring at us all along.

Do you think the one guy in the truck had a material effect on the housing market?

If your concern is the housing market it doesn't matter whether he immigrated legally or illegally surely?

Do you think we need seven different threads on immigration? (Yep, there's another one now)

Personally I think it's an interesting story but more appropriate for the Piston.

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 Post subject: Re: Dublin Airport, Illegal Immigration Racketeering Watch
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 12:38 am 
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Given what went on it sounds like there would have to be a bit of money involved. Trafficking isn't that implausible, is it?


it is, most of the so called trafficking involves women from countries like Romania, so they would have no need to pay bribes to enter the country

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 Post subject: Re: Dublin Airport, Illegal Immigration Racketeering Watch
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Mantissa wrote:

Thing Fish wrote:
I guess the admins thought it was newsworthy, some of our lives may depend on this.


Our lives may depend on reading about immigrants being smuggled through an Aer Lingus food truck?


He might be an Eagles of Death Metal fan

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 Post subject: Re: Dublin Airport, Illegal Immigration Racketeering Watch
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:12 am 
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There's also a spurious link in the rise of Chinese tourism to seeing more Asian people on the street that might or might not be Chinese and may or may not be illegal immigrants in this country or some other country.


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 Post subject: Re: Dublin Airport, Illegal Immigration Racketeering Watch
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:28 am 
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Mantissa wrote:
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Population movements have no relevance on demand for housing, competition for jobs or access to services. We learned it here first in this thread. Tonight. It was staring at us all along.

Do you think the one guy in the truck had a material effect on the housing market?

If your concern is the housing market it doesn't matter whether he immigrated legally or illegally surely?

Do you think we need seven different threads on immigration? (Yep, there's another one now)

Personally I think it's an interesting story but more appropriate for the Piston.


I think you just find encountering regular reminders of the immigration clusterfuck in Ireland and Europe all a bit "icky" and then feeling obliged to construct counter arguments or explanations without using the shorthand you want to use - calling opponents on this backward fascists - even more icky


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 Post subject: Re: Dublin Airport, Illegal Immigration Racketeering Watch
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Indo reckon a few hundred got in in via the Aer Lingus catering truck route. if 500 got in that would fill 25 4-bedroom apartments, with 5 sharing per bedroom. That's one mini apartment complex filled. The kind of apartment sold off to vulture funds who effectively control the rental market. Forget about rent being determined by 2 wage earners, its back to ye olde tenements & doss houses. Unless of course one's employer subsidises their rent :x

can anyone vouch for bona fides of those brought in through aer lingus catering smuggling racket? once in, they are totally invisible to the system if they wish to commit an atrocity.

if you ever get a chance to go through the airport, just say to security folk that you'll go straight to plane without security and see how far you get.

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 Post subject: Re: Dublin Airport, Illegal Immigration Racketeering Watch
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:22 am 
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It's newsworthy because AL employees involvement, airport security etc.

Mind you can you imagine the leftie media if it were Ryanair?

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 Post subject: Re: Dublin Airport, Illegal Immigration Racketeering Watch
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:35 am 
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Why would anyone pay tens of thousands of euro to get from Rome to Ireland when they could (a) just enter Ireland on some sort of holiday visa and overstay or (b) stay in Rome and move around the Schengen area to their heart's content? Is it because we're English speaking?

Dozens, if not hundreds, of people in the airport had to have known about this, and a lot of them would have to have been in on it.

How can the authorities say with such confidence how long this has been going on for, how much it cost, how many have gotten in, and who was involved internationally?

It is very strange that there is no mention of any involvement of the authorities from other countries.


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 Post subject: Re: Dublin Airport, Illegal Immigration Racketeering Watch
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:53 am 
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Evil_g wrote:
Why would anyone pay tens of thousands of euro to get from Rome to Ireland when they could (a) just enter Ireland on some sort of holiday visa and overstay or (b) stay in Rome and move around the Schengen area to their heart's content? Is it because we're English speaking?


I suspect most of them want to reach the UK

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 Post subject: Re: Dublin Airport, Illegal Immigration Racketeering Watch
PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:17 am 
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I'd say the Brits are watching this with interest. If we are unwilling to control our own border than they will think twice about having an open border between the North and ROI once they leave the EU.


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