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 Post subject: Anglo-Irish Nominees Ltd
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 8:47 pm 
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I've started the process of digging into Anglo companies, with this first one:

http://www.gavinsblog.com/2009/09/29/an ... nk-part-1/

Does anyone remember the Atrium deal? It's a very curious list of investors isn't it? Denis O'Brien?

Fitzpatrick still appears to be a joint shareholder in Anglo-Irish Nominees Ltd, but nationalisation may have bumped him off.

Thoughts please.


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 Post subject: Re: Anglo-Irish Nominees Ltd
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:14 pm 
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gavinsblog wrote:
I've started the process of digging into Anglo companies, with this first one:

http://www.gavinsblog.com/2009/09/29/an ... nk-part-1/

Does anyone remember the Atrium deal? It's a very curious list of investors isn't it? Denis O'Brien?

Fitzpatrick still appears to be a joint shareholder in Anglo-Irish Nominees Ltd, but nationalisation may have bumped him off.

Thoughts please.


I found the recent financial filing very interesting. What is remarkable is how many of the other directorships show up on this recent Statutory Instrument from the Minister..

http://www.attorneygeneral.ie/esi/2009/B27047.pdf

So that means they were all owned by Anglo and are now all owned by the state.

Is that the Ansbacher I see on the list? Now there is the ultimate irony. The Irish taxpayers now own Ansbacher..


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 Post subject: Re: Anglo-Irish Nominees Ltd
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:22 pm 
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Gavin,

Seanies holding in the company is in a nominee capacity. He has no beneficial interest. The reason for the holding is that the company predated the legislation allowing single member companies which was only introduced in the 90s. You will note the accounts state that the company is a wholly owned subsidiary of Anglo.

As a nominee company, it holds the shares in Tysan Investments but it is not a wholly owned subsidiary as it is acting as a nominee.

Re Balcuik the accounts are linked below. Although the shares in the parent company are held by Anglo Nominees, the accounts disclose the beneficial interests of the directors but this only accounts for 40% of the ownership.

Gunne, Melly, O'Brien, McGann, Keane & Coulson each have 200 shares or 6.66% each. That leaves Lindat Limited (this is a Pat Doherty of Harcourt Developments company),Lar Bradshaw, Sean Fitzpatrick, Paddy Wright, Longstone Estates Limited and Lochlann Quinn divvying up the rest.

Anglo does have a charge over the 106M borrowings that Tysan has from them secured on its assets. It also has a seperate charge on the Balcuik property.

FYI

http://www.scribd.com/doc/20391532/Tysan-Accounts
http://www.scribd.com/doc/20391526/Tysan-B1
http://www.scribd.com/doc/20391517/Balcuik-Charge
http://www.scribd.com/doc/20391514/Balcuik-Accounts
http://www.scribd.com/doc/20391547/Lindat-b1
http://www.scribd.com/doc/20391540/Lindat-Accounts


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 Post subject: Re: Anglo-Irish Nominees Ltd
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:23 pm 
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jmc wrote:
I found the recent financial filing very interesting. What is remarkable is how many of the other directorships show up on this recent Statutory Instrument from the Minister..

http://www.attorneygeneral.ie/esi/2009/B27047.pdf

So that means they were all owned by Anglo and are now all owned by the state.


So Anglo Irish Bank is now an arm of state? Why not just merge them with the Dept of Finance and have done with it.

Quote:
The Company Secretary and the Head of Human Resources in Anglo Irish
Bank Corporation Limited, are, respectively, the officer of the body and the
relevant authority, as determined by the Minister for Finance.


The Anglo HR guy or girl must have woken up one morning to find they had been transported to a parellel universe. I doubt if being a relevant authority for the purposes of the Ethics in Public Office legislation (whatever that actually means) is a standard part of training courses for HR managers.


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 Post subject: Re: Anglo-Irish Nominees Ltd
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:25 pm 
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I've researched that Ansbacher before. From what I can find, it has no relationship to the infamous Ansbacher, whatever. My research included newspaper trawls of the company from the 1960s onwards.

Does this mean Seanie has to make a declaration to SIPOC?


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 Post subject: Re: Anglo-Irish Nominees Ltd
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:25 pm 
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grumpy wrote:
Gavin,

Seanies holding in the company is in a nominee capacity. He has no beneficial interest. The reason for the holding is that the company predated the legislation allowing single member companies which was only introduced in the 90s. You will note the accounts state that the company is a wholly owned subsidiary of Anglo.

As a nominee company, it holds the shares in Tysan Investments but it is not a wholly owned subsidiary as it is acting as a nominee.

Re Balcuik the accounts are linked below. Although the shares in the parent company are held by Anglo Nominees, the accounts disclose the beneficial interests of the directors but this only accounts for 40% of the ownership.

Gunne, Melly, O'Brien, McGann, Keane & Coulson each have 200 shares or 6.66% each. That leaves Lindat Limited (this is a Pat Doherty of Harcourt Developments company),Lar Bradshaw, Sean Fitzpatrick, Paddy Wright, Longstone Estates Limited and Lochlann Quinn divvying up the rest.

Anglo does have a charge over the 106M borrowings that Tysan has from them secured on its assets. It also has a seperate charge on the Balcuik property.

FYI

http://www.scribd.com/doc/20391532/Tysan-Accounts
http://www.scribd.com/doc/20391526/Tysan-B1
http://www.scribd.com/doc/20391517/Balcuik-Charge
http://www.scribd.com/doc/20391514/Balcuik-Accounts
http://www.scribd.com/doc/20391547/Lindat-b1
http://www.scribd.com/doc/20391540/Lindat-Accounts


Thanks Grumpy, all help is appreciated. I am always open to correction. I have updated the blog post to reflect your input.

So the Atrium/Sandyford properties remain owned by Tysan, but it borrowed €106m from Anglo to buy the property? Is it Anglo or Bank of Scotland Ireland which has a charge on Balcuik>?


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 Post subject: Re: Anglo-Irish Nominees Ltd
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:59 am 
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I don't know what it all means, but the links between Anglo and NTR are very interesting.

As well as running the M50 consumer ripoff operation, NTR owned Airtricity, the green energy company.

Anglo seemed quite heavily involved in green energy

http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/200 ... y42571.asp

Looks like Anglo & Co have been a "Green Bank" all along... :x

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 Post subject: Re: Anglo-Irish Nominees Ltd
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:16 am 
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NTR are some dark outfit they are the true kings of corruption..... country has been destructed in a most effective an insidious way. Money. No better agent of control.

I pointed out for years to people that NTR through the M50 money printing operation that they where buying up interests in all future "green companies" it was obvious it was on their website early 00's. I marched as a young fella against their plans for a huge dump in D15. We closed down the M50 for a short period. Imagine doing that now :roll:

bungaloid wrote:
I don't know what it all means, but the links between Anglo and NTR are very interesting.

As well as running the M50 consumer ripoff operation, NTR owned Airtricity, the green energy company.

Anglo seemed quite heavily involved in green energy

http://archives.tcm.ie/businesspost/200 ... y42571.asp

Looks like Anglo & Co have been a "Green Bank" all along... :x

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 Post subject: Re: Anglo-Irish Nominees Ltd
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:08 am 
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http://www.greenparty.ie/en/news/latest ... en_economy

Quote:
Minister for Communications, Energy and Natural Resources, Eamon Ryan said, “The green economy will provide an immediate boost for our country in these times. Ireland has huge potential in the area of our natural resources and the generation of real wealth and jobs. This Group will be tasked with mobilising our talents across the public and private sector to position Ireland as at the forefront of the new global green economy.”

Membership of the Group

Chairperson – Joe Harford
Declan Murphy – Ecology Foundation
Eddie O’Connor – Mainstream RP
Claire O’Grady-Walshe – AfrI
Colin Gordon – Glanbia
Brendan Tuohy – Former Secretary General Dept Public Enterprise & DCMNR
John Fitzgerald – ESRI
Martin Eves – EnviroGrind
Richard Kennedy – Kedco Ltd
Rosheen McGuckian – Group Corporate Development Director, NTR plc


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 Post subject: Re: Anglo-Irish Nominees Ltd
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:13 am 
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I can honestly say that expressing my true opinion in any public way as to how to deal with people like NTR and the Roches et al would most certainly result in a gaol sentence (for me that is).


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 Post subject: Re: Anglo-Irish Nominees Ltd
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laughinglawyer wrote:
I can honestly say that expressing my true opinion in any public way as to how to deal with people like NTR and the Roches et al would most certainly result in a gaol sentence (for me that is).


Have always wondered whether statements like that are actionable :?: :D


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 Post subject: Re: Anglo-Irish Nominees Ltd
PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:45 am 
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Very possible !!!! Fuck em !!!


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