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National Internship Scheme - Good or Bad Idea?
Good Idea 16%  16%  [ 24 ]
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 Post subject: National Internship Scheme
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:39 am 
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Supervalu
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Supervalu again and again and again
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Supervalu have a fair few WPP jobs up on fas.ie now how would their competition compete against someone with free staff?

Centra now in on it

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People genuinely looking for part time jobs or retail work are not going to find it. How will this do anything other than increase unemployment ? The state now paying for private AND public sector wages?

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 Post subject: Re: The Jobs Crisis
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:44 am 
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Since when did a job placement like this last nine months? I presume the workers retain their social welfare increment while with FAS - so it's jobs for nothing for the employers. Scandalous.

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 Post subject: Re: The Jobs Crisis
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:56 am 
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Since when did a job placement like this last nine months? I presume the workers retain their social welfare increment while with FAS - so it's jobs for nothing for the employers. Scandalous.

More to the point - whatever you feel about work for welfare - those jobs are cheapening costs to the retail employers. The retail sector would otherwise have to look for other cost savings either in the form of rent or in the form of rates. The taxpayer is again subsidising landlords.

A further damage will be caused by the fact that no retailer can afford to not do this, once his competitors have started it.

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 Post subject: Re: The Jobs Crisis
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 10:59 am 
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Jesus Christ. Imagine the insecurity that creates amoung existing staff. Outrageous. This needs to be publicised.


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 Post subject: Re: The Jobs Crisis
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:00 am 
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It was the employers I was thinking of ym -the working for welfare is less of an issue in principle - no reason why people shouldn't work for welfare, community employment schemes do that - for the community - not for private companies.

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 Post subject: Re: The Jobs Crisis
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:01 am 
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Kate P wrote:
It was the employers I was thinking of ym -the working for welfare is less of an issue in principle - no reason why people shouldn't work for welfare, community employment schemes do that - for the community - not for private companies.

I agree entirely and meant to say it - there are plenty of 'good' work for welfare that could be done, particularly in the summer.

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 Post subject: Re: The Jobs Crisis
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:02 am 
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Kate P wrote:
It was the employers I was thinking of ym -the working for welfare is less of an issue in principle - no reason why people shouldn't work for welfare, community employment schemes do that - for the community - not for private companies.


I would share that view, build infrastructure or whatever. Tackle the root causes of our unemployment. The simple fact of the matter is that this scheme will increase unemployment :evil:

Microsoft Ireland are taking 10 people on under the WPP1 scheme, what will this do for graduate programmes ?
I can see this spreading like wildfire in all sectors from Centra/supervalu/ecco shoes to the types of business like Microsoft and so on

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 Post subject: Re: The Jobs Crisis
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:06 am 
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I wonder will many on the dole volunteer for this, the National Spring Clean?


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 Post subject: Re: The Jobs Crisis
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:18 am 
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Reminds me of the scam in the Film Shawshak Redemption, where prisoners were sent out to work undercutting private enterprise. I suspect someone is pocketing a vast fortune out of this.

Separately but related. I applied for a job with a large multinational based in Cork, had 2 interviews with the Company staying overnight in the City for both at considerable cost. Heard nothing back. I rang 2 weeks after the 2nd interview, the company said the job had been pulled.
While looking for other jobs, I noticed that a job had been posted on FAS and the Spec matched word for word the job I was interviewed for.

At present 95% of the jobs listed on FAS that I am qualified to do, I am disqualified from applying bcos they are WPP for College Graduates. Amazing Country


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 Post subject: Re: The Jobs Crisis
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:23 am 
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Sorry to hear it, Pyramid5. In all my thoughts of what might happen, I never imagined that the government would deliberately undermine the most vulnerable in society in this particular way. They amaze me with their stupidity.


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 Post subject: Re: The Jobs Crisis
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:27 am 
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Don't be so cynical, Coles. This is the government working closely with employers in the private sector to understand the needs of industry and...

...find alternative ways to screw the public :(

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 Post subject: Re: The Jobs Crisis
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:51 am 
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I Know Dells Sales Operation recruited a load of people on WPP1 as well and moved business from the UK to here for the the new recruits


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 Post subject: Re: The Jobs Crisis
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:57 am 
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from http://www.fas.ie/en/WPP/Provider.htm
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WPP - Provider
Why Apply?

The Work Placement Programme facilities your business to take on a person for a nine month work experience placement. While the person is gaining valuable work experience they are also contributing to your business. You have the opportunity to see how they work and if you are in a position to recruit you will have had ample opportunity to determine if they are suitable.

How to Apply?

Contact the FÁS National Contact Centre at freephone 1800 611 116 or e-mail jobsireland@fas.ie to request a Word version of the WPP Application form or download the PDF version (PDF 62kb) and return the completed form to the postal address indicated.

Who is Eligible?

Businesses in the Public, Private, Community and Voluntary Sector can apply to offer work placements. In your application you will be required to meet certain criteria and to make certain declarations. See Application Guidelines (PDF 42kb) for details.

Do I Pay Participants?

This is a work experience placement and so you are not required to pay Participants during the placement. Individuals in receipt of social welfare payments will need to ensure that any payments they receive do not affect their social welfare status and entitlements.

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 Post subject: Re: The Jobs Crisis
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:58 am 
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Pyramid5 wrote:
Reminds me of the scam in the Film Shawshak Redemption, where prisoners were sent out to work undercutting private enterprise. I suspect someone is pocketing a vast fortune out of this.

Separately but related. I applied for a job with a large multinational based in Cork, had 2 interviews with the Company staying overnight in the City for both at considerable cost. Heard nothing back. I rang 2 weeks after the 2nd interview, the company said the job had been pulled.
While looking for other jobs, I noticed that a job had been posted on FAS and the Spec matched word for word the job I was interviewed for.

At present 95% of the jobs listed on FAS that I am qualified to do, I am disqualified from applying bcos they are WPP for College Graduates. Amazing Country



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Fucking motherfuckers. This is just unbelievable, even for this sick country.


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 Post subject: Re: The Jobs Crisis
PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:10 pm 
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http://www.fas.ie/NR/rdonlyres/A50CAD59 ... elines.pdf

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PART C
Declaration of intent: You must complete this section, then sign and date it without any
amendment. By signing this declaration you are confirming that all items listed from a)
to g) inclusive, are true and correct.
a) The business currently has no vacancies in the area of activity in which the
placement is offered
b) The placement will not be provided to displace an existing employee
c) i)The business has not made any person redundant in the last three months
Or
ii) There have been redundancies in the last three months but there has been no
direct displacement of an employee, and the level of redundancies in the last
three months is less than 5% of the workforce.
d) The business’s Public/Employers Liability insurance and Motor Insurance, if
applicable, will cover any participants on this programme
e) The business is fully compliant with current workplace health and safety and all
other legal requirements
f) The business is a legal entity
g) If Garda Vetting applies to this placement, the business will ensure that the
vetting process is applied

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