Intel were supposed to decide between Ireland and Israel on a location for the 22nm fab. Does anyone know the outcome ?

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/fin ... 28839.html

Hi Fbr,

Sorry to say the decision went in Israel's favour. No surprise given the level of direct and active government support Israel threw behind their effort. The decision was made at the end of March.

I have a lot of friends who were due to work on the 1270 program and now are working overseas if they are lucky (relatively speaking)

Nemesis

Did it?

The project has not gone ahead on either site! No descision has been made by Intel but what has happened is that the preparatory work has finished on schedule in Leixlip. Most of the consultant engineers have moved on to other projects if they are lucky.

Well I guess that's clear as mud, guys. Either of you care to name your sources or clarify ?

The only thing I can find in the public domain is here - suggests the Israelis are not a soft touch. That little affair with the boats might not have gone down well in San Jose.

http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/ ... 6&fid=1725

There are no verifable sources because there has been no descision hence nothing announced. The company I work for have contracts with Intel in a number of their Fabs worldwide so we get fairly good insider rumours whenever we all meet up.

Here's the latest rumour: The decision will not be made until at least the end of 2010. 22nm is at least 2 years from high volume manufacturing. HVM1 will be most likely be in America but this depends on how fully loaded the current American plants are, in other words how well the 32nm stuff sells. Isreal would currently be favorite for HVM2 but all bets are off due to the drop in the value of the Euro. Even if Isreal gets HVM2 there is always HVM3 up for grabs.
WARNING NOTHING DEFINATE IN SEMICONDUCTOR MANUFACTURING: Fab 10 (Old plant in Leixlip) will most likely close by end of 2010, around 500 jobs to go. Could just as easily get more business but currently unlikely.

Who knows, 6 months is a long time in semiconductor fabbing. If the ipad 'takes over' the processors are not even Intel ......unlike their powerbooks and desktops.

See below - I don't think the Irish government is in a position to give a 200m USD grant:

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340 ... 54,00.html



Israel to give Intel NIS 741M grant

Company required to increase number of employees from 570 to 3,100, add 50 staff members to its R&D center in Jerusalem
Naama Sikuler, Calcalist

The State of Israel <http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3284752,00.html%20> will give Intel a grant of NIS 741 million ($203 million) to expand its microchip factory in Kiryat Gat, and in return Intel will be obligated to invest $2.7 billion in Israel, Calcalist reported Monday.



The company will be obligated to increase the number of its employees from 570 to 3,100 and add fifty staff members to its research and development center in Jerusalem.



The grant is split into NIS 678 million (186 million), spread over eight years, with an option for an additional NIS 63 million ($17 million0 in exchange for expanding the R&D center in the periphery or investing in research and development activities through Israeli research institutes.



Last year Intel approached the Investment Center in the Ministry of Industry, Trade and Labor, which has an annual budget of NIS 550 million ($151 million), asking it to consider giving the company a $400 million grant, which amounts to 15% of the $2.7 billion investment it was interested in carrying out in its Kiryat Gat facility.





Because the Investment Center's budget is insufficient to fund the grant for Intel, the Ministry of Industry, Trade and Labor needed a budget increase from the Treasury. Following negotiations with Intel, a decision was made to cut the grant in half, to just $200 million.

Depends on how long it takes to get the 200 mill back with a bit of interest. Lot's of high tech manufacturing in Israel, but I don't think it is any more relevant to this tech than Ireland.
What's the corporate tax rate in Israhell?

Israel has probably Intels top design centre(Merom, Conroe etc), & some world class Universities for technical graduates. Many major technology companies have serious operations there, Cisco, Microsoft, Google, Intel, Oracle, these aren't just call centres, but proper R&D.

there will be no israel within 15yrs and intel must be doing some sort of risk analysis with the latest geopolitical developments

Another one for my firm predictions listing... How are your orange juice supplies by the way? Or is it Koolaid only round your way???

Only a massive tsunami in that part of the Mediterranean which kills 90%
of the population will see the state Israel disappear and maybe not even then.
They are a tenacious people.

Chapters obviously selling the collected works of Nostradamus again...

ok folks I was being a bit rash there













I give them 20 yrs