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 Post subject: Re: New property prices database
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:52 pm 
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The cynicism is understandable, but my view is that they can't really dodge providing genuinely revealing data. As in, it will not be hard to tell what houses are actually selling for even if it's a wee bit opaque. Alternatively, it's even possible it'll be fully transparent like the UK system.


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 Post subject: Re: New property prices database
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:54 pm 
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Larry wrote:
The cynicism is understandable, but my view is that they can't really dodge providing genuinely revealing data. As in, it will not be hard to tell what houses are actually selling for even if it's a wee bit opaque. Alternatively, it's even possible it'll be fully transparent like the UK system.


We badly need a humour forum. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: New property prices database
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:56 pm 
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Maybe I missed something here but this seems like a whole lot of nothing to me. I can use Daft and MyHome to have a look at property price data if I'm so inclined. If this register isn't going to publish actual sale prices it's as good as useless in my book. And I haven't seen anything to suggest achieved sale prices will be included.


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 Post subject: Re: New property prices database
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:58 pm 
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RebelLucanRenter wrote:
Maybe I missed something here but this seems like a whole lot of nothing to me. If this register isn't going to publish actual sale prices it's as good as useless in my book. And I haven't seen anything to suggest achieved sale prices will be included.


I guess we will have to await the publishing of the amendments to the Bill to see what is actually involved..Be interesting to see the views of FG and labour on this...


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 Post subject: Re: New property prices database
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 12:59 pm 
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RebelLucanRenter wrote:
Maybe I missed something here but this seems like a whole lot of nothing to me. I can use Daft and MyHome to have a look at property price data if I'm so inclined. If this register isn't going to publish actual sale prices it's as good as useless in my book. And I haven't seen anything to suggest achieved sale prices will be included.


It'll just run along the lines of the ESRI/PTSB jobby...
IE averages in large areas with little or no break down.
This will really only be capable of giving a broad indicator of prices continuing to drop or prices beginning to stabilise and increase.

Now since the state owns so much property via NAMA... I can't see it being anything but a frigging great time to buy... always.!


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 Post subject: Re: New property prices database
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:39 pm 
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Doesn't say anything about the information being publicly available... Just says that they will have it and reports will be published. Doesn't say to who.

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 Post subject: Re: New property prices database
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:00 pm 
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Hey, I just came up with their database schema for them:

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CREATE TABLE PROPERTY_DATA (
  BOOLEAN NEVER_BEEN_A_BETTER_TIME_TO_BUY DEFAULT 'true'
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 Post subject: Re: New property prices database
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:04 pm 
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Any timeline?


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 Post subject: Re: New property prices database
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:14 pm 
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Nanda Devi wrote:
"market trends” and "statistical purposes'
I predict a load of graphs.



Yep...sounds like bullshit.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:31 pm 
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Watch them turn a simple premise into a black hole of expenses and over-inflated wages.


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 Post subject: Re: New property prices database
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:49 pm 
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I am pleased, if you have been following this for a long time which I have, any change is welcome.

However :

no change to the existing legislation programme yet

http://www.taoiseach.ie/eng/Taoiseach_a ... Programme/


here is the PSR bill which needs to be moved on.
http://www.oireachtas.ie/documents/bill ... b2809s.pdf

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 Post subject: Re: New property prices database
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 2:51 pm 
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Far be it from me to be a voice of optimism, but I would ask where the government have left to run to at this point? In a sense, isn't the game up with the property morkesh? Even LTEV is being decimated (well, more than decimated!) as NAMA takes loans, the developers are all fucked, public sentiments is in the jax...I just don't really see the vested interest the government has any longer in trying to keep the plates spinning.


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 Post subject: Re: New property prices database
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 3:03 pm 
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Whatever the case may be, who in their right mind will buy a house with this law coming down the pipe in six months (or so)?

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Olympia wrote:
Whatever the case may be, who in their right mind will buy a house with this law coming down the pipe in six months (or so)?


You'll always have the 'sure I need a house to put a roof over my heads n if I rent the landlord will drug me n steal my kidneys' ... or some such :-)


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 Post subject: Re: New property prices database
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Will this be self assess I wonder :)

What country is it that allows self assess but only if by doing so you give the local corporation the option to buy your house at that price ?

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