@Schuhart, on another bender?



There is no argument against the fact that this scheme would be excessive, both in cost and frequency, and that it would be deeply unfair.

It's one thing to have the word 'rural' on Google/Pin-alert, Schuhart, but comments like the above are designed to drag the debate off topic. You're trolling. Stop.

See the problem is Schuhart that a subset of the population will be creamed to subsidise CIF members caught short for income....not forgetting generous mileage allowances in their beemers and mercs and it WON'T ACTUALLY SOLVE ANYTHING.

I am in favour of a periodic inspection scheme such as the NI scheme, including make good orders and enforcement. But subjecting everyone to a €300 a year regime simply because of where they live is a racket...pure and simple. Most septic tanks in rural areas are functional and compliant and in reality need a desludge perhaps once every 10 or 20 years at most. We do not have the processing capacity in much of Ireland to handle annual desludges x 800k odd units anyway.

The government is, meanwhile, dragging its arse backwards on another EU Directive, instructively called the Urban Waste Water Directive.

So this is why I saw Tom Boy drinking it up in a good restaraunt where I was eating there a couple of weeks ago. 'Twas brandy and cigars all round ( not joking )

Can we please stop using this ridiculous term on this forum? Schuhart has taken umbrage with a particular point demonstrated by 2pack, and underneath the verbosity and colourful prose, he makes a legitimate point.

Sounds like we need our own grassy knoll for Phil & Tom, or at least a night soil hillock!

Why inflict another cartel cabal upon us before at least dismantling the legal & medical ones?
And what do they propose for the farmers which is likely worst pollution-wise or is the IFA too strong?

Could they not at least combine this with the inevitable propertly tax and let the councils decide if they want to have Tom's boys cream off half the revenue for inspection?

The inspection scheme in Cavan that was acceptable to the EU checks every 7 years. I'd imagine the most likely thing that will happen will be the extension of the Cavan scheme to the rest of the country at a hundred quid a throw - not an annual 300 euro charge ffs. FG has no desire to piss off the mountainy men who vote for them.

Urban dwellers will pay water charges to cover the cost of public schemes, boggers will have to cut down on how much they poo in their own water supply. Everyone's a winner. No need for Fintan O'Toole style delusions of cunning malevolence by the elites.

But in the interests of complete evenhandedness, shouldn't the urban houses -- in addition to meters on their inputs -- have weighing scales on their outputs?

Well that sounds exactly like what we should do. €100 every 7 years is absolutely fine. Its just that Country Tom and the lads want to convert a €100 per 7 years (= €14 per annum) reasonable precaution into a €2100 per 7 years troughfest.

Then they want consultancy fees designing replacement units and getting them through planning.

Also, he's funny :-p

O'Cuiv on the side of the plain people again. Hogan now the bad man.


http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0827/1224303060668.html


I imagine there is a copy of this article from a year ago with O'Cuiv and Hogan's names transposed.

If you find this theatre credible then you are a fool. That is all.

Dingle-dangle O'Cuiv is just building his bogger brand of dancing-at-the-crossroads, don't-pay-the-Brits-their-land-annuities, aren't-we-all-better-off-fetching-water-from-wells-using-reed-lamps-crapping-in-holes-in-the-ground-wiping-our-arses-with-newspaper atavism. His idea of innovation is to build a turf and dried cow shite time machine to bring Ireland back 70 years in the past. His is appealing to his constituency of muck savages.

An "inequitable levy on rural dwellers". You stringly cunt. What about the Fianna Failure sponsored property bubble that represented an inequitable levy on urban dwellers? Boggers build once-off houses, put in cheap, leaky septic tanks that allow their shite to contaminate water and expect to get away with it.

If Mehole was anything other that a superficially cute, slipperly, slimey useless twatcunt, he would actively encourage Dingle-dangle O'Cuiv to run for the presidency, let him lose spectactularly and then ditch hom from his front-bench. Unfortunately Mehole lacks the real two-faced ruthlessness and killer instincts of his predecessors to do anything like this.

For once, I'm in complete agreement with O'Cuiv.
I'd much prefer him go to jail rather than pay the charge.
Could he not persude all his fellow FF TDs to follow suit ?

From the horse's mouth, Minister for the Environment, Phil Hogan talking to Pat Kenny right now.

Registration fee in 2012, inspection will begin in 2013, vulnerable areas prioritised, no inspection fees, EPA/LA will decide on what works are required.

@schuhart, .

He can feck off with his registration fee and all, cunt. I already paid them, they are called planning fees.