Signs of the Depression

dipole · **Joined:** Dec 28, 2006 **Posts:** 2676

tourist numbers down.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/bre ... ing29.html

so much for the lower VAT rate and the billion euro sunk in to Dublin airport.

Homeboy · **Joined:** Jun 5, 2008 **Posts:** 1410

dipole wrote:

tourist numbers down.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/bre ... ing29.html

so much for the lower VAT rate and the billion euro sunk in to Dublin airport.

Have we any evidence that the lower VAT rate has been passed on to consumers, or is it just to boost the margins of businesses? See no evidence of it myself.

But I notice town seems fairly packed recently.

dipole · **Joined:** Dec 28, 2006 **Posts:** 2676

Was in a shop of someone I know on Monday at closing time just before flying out. closed off the till for the day -€31 for the day, i.e. 31 euro more was in the till in the morning than when closing that evening; that's how poor trade is down the country.
Plenty of window shoppers, few parting with cash as they don't have it to spend.
Don't look for the shoppers, look for the shopping bags.

txirimiri · **Posted:** Wed May 02, 2012 12:33 pm

Tolka wrote:

JohnnyTheFox wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemline_index

Ta muchly.

Saving money on hair removal ? or is it fashion to have a bushy look ?[/quote]

Saving money on tights. Short skirts require new or newish tights. Long skirts, you can get away with tights that are well part their best days. Particularly if worn with boots.

Coles2 · **Posted:** Wed May 02, 2012 12:36 pm

dipole wrote:

Was in a shop of someone I know on Monday at closing time just before flying out. closed off the till for the day -€31 for the day, i.e. 31 euro more was in the till in the morning than when closing that evening; that's how poor trade is down the country.
Plenty of window shoppers, few parting with cash as they don't have it to spend.
Don't look for the shoppers, look for the shopping bags.

I've been doing a bit of research on setting up a 'youthclub' or activities for kids and in my reading I came across the Department of Health and Children publication on 'Teenspace - The National Policy for Recreation for Young People' (PDF). It's an interesting read, but one thing really jumped out at me.

Quote:

Shopping
Shopping is a popular recreational activity for many young people, especially girls. Girls strongly ‘peer orientate’ or form and maintain friendship groups or cliques on the basis of a shared appreciation of clothes, as well as music and personal qualities. This may be one factor explaining girls’ high frequency in this activity (Thurlow, 2002). Looking at shops was valued by young girls for a number of reasons, including ‘it’s great to see new clothes’, ‘we like thinking about how to spend money’, ‘it’s fun with your friends’ and ‘it’s in the city’.

See those shopping centres? They're actually 'recreational facilities'.

johnnyone234 · **Posted:** Fri May 04, 2012 12:22 pm

http://businessetc.thejournal.ie/norway ... 6-May2012/

Quote:

THE BODY that manages Norway’s sovereign wealth has sold its entire holding of Irish government bonds, as part of attempts to limit the country’s exposure to the crisis in the eurozone.
Norges Bank Investment Management sold off all its Irish bonds, as well as its Portuguese ones, apparently believing the two bonds were not ‘predictable’ enough.

Madness of Crowds · **Joined:** Apr 4, 2010 **Posts:** 1789

johnnyone234 wrote:

http://businessetc.thejournal.ie/norway-debt-crisis-bonds-ireland-portugal-default-439816-May2012/

Quote:

THE BODY that manages Norway’s sovereign wealth has sold its entire holding of Irish government bonds, as part of attempts to limit the country’s exposure to the crisis in the eurozone.
Norges Bank Investment Management sold off all its Irish bonds, as well as its Portuguese ones, apparently believing the two bonds were not ‘predictable’ enough.

Look on the bright side. If the bonds are unpredictable, at least it means they haven't decided meltdown is a complete certainty.

Open Window · **Joined:** Jan 1, 1970 **Posts:** 18119

STAY ON TOPIC

Fed up! :evil:

Neverbeenaworsetimetobuy · **Joined:** Jan 4, 2008 **Posts:** 865

Open Window wrote:

Fed up!

A sure sign of depression OW. :-GC

Dubhgeannain · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 10:53 am

I'm after hearing of 4 different suicides in the last month and a bit. And one suicide attempt.

Tolka · **Joined:** Mar 23, 2012 **Posts:** 54

Dubhgeannain wrote:

I'm after hearing of 4 different suicides in the last month and a bit. And one suicide attempt.

It's becoming a European problem

Quote:

http://www.policymic.com/articles/7263/greece-suicide-rate-on-the-rise-shows-austerity-s-toll

Quote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/9236231/Italian-businessman-becomes-countrys-25th-austerity-suicide-of-the-year.html

the edge · **Joined:** Sep 25, 2007 **Posts:** 3737

Did I read somewhere that spring is the worst time for suicides? Something to do with some people suffering from depression expecting to be able to cheer up when better weather arives, but then becoming more depressed when they find their depression is not just something caused by seasonality? Of course, exacerbated this year, as the weather has not in fact improved.

greentree · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 1:19 pm

A lot of people here sitting on the sidelines, cribbing and moaning...

catbear · **Posted:** Thu May 10, 2012 2:01 pm

Suicide in my area started to become an expected occurrence before I left for Oz. It was getting to me, a lot of them men my age, mid thirties to mid forties.

Neverbeenaworsetimetobuy · **Joined:** Jan 4, 2008 **Posts:** 865

the edge wrote:

Did I read somewhere that spring is the worst time for suicides? Something to do with some people suffering from depression expecting to be able to cheer up when better weather arives, but then becoming more depressed when they find their depression is not just something caused by seasonality? Of course, exacerbated this year, as the weather has not in fact improved.

The weather in this country and its effect on mental health is and always was understated.
It's a horrible horrible country at times weather wise.

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