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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:18 am 
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Here we go. You couldn't make it up.

http://debates.oireachtas.ie/DDebate.as ... All&Page=4
EDIT: Jost you beat me to it but I'll include the link anyways :)


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ThePartysOver wrote:
Here we go. You couldn't make it up.

http://debates.oireachtas.ie/DDebate.as ... All&Page=4
EDIT: Jost you beat me to it but I'll include the link anyways :)

I think it deserves to be reposted many, many times. Truly our greatest comic genius since Flann O'Brien :)


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Someone should just use it as their signature forever.


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Someone should just use it as their signature forever.


Donie Cassidy should come on here and use it.

He gets an easy ride in the Seanad... :lol:

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The latest register, placed in the Oireachtas library yesterday, shows that some TDs and senators have made substantial investments in property.
They include junior minister Frank Fahey who owns, or part-owns,16 properties in Galway; Athlone; Dublin; Kildare; Boston and Brussels.
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FG justice spokesman Jim O’Keeffe has interests in ten properties (mostly in Co Cork).
Other significant property investors are: Noel O’Flynn (FF, Cork N-C); John McGuinness (FF, Kilkenny); Denis O’Donovan (FF, Cork S-W); Sean Ardagh (FF, Dublin S-C); GV Wright (FF, Dublin North) and and Donie Cassidy (FF, Westmeath), who has a large portfolio of property in Dublin.

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Politicians seem to have followed the trend of investing in property abroad. TDs have invested in properties in Warsaw; Budapest; Brussels; Leeds; Birmingham; Liverpool; Evian in France and Boston.
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http://archives.tcm.ie/irishexaminer/20 ... 678742.asp


Now I know why Ireland is totally fucked :cry:


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I am going to have a quick scan of the Ethics legislation to see if Donie should have declared an interest.


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YM reads the transcript of Donie saying:
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We have a duty to tell first-time house buyers, young couples with no previous experience, that there is unbelievable value in the marketplace today.


YM hears in his head:
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There's a sucker born every day. There are still plenty of naive or stupid people out there. For fecks sake fellows, don't tell them abou the pyramid or they won't ever buy and of the over-priced crap I have in my portfolio. If we keep telling them it'll be all right, the saps will believe us and by the time they don't, we'll be long gone and they'll have emigrated to escape their debts.


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Fair Play to Senator Rónán Mullen.

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Donie Cassidy wrote:
first-time house buyers, young couples with no previous experience


You have to wonder if the guy actually believes his own hype - or whether he's well aware of what's going on, and just wants more young couples to shackle themselves to a future of negative equity, so he can feather his own little nest-egg.

If the latter, it's incredibly unsettling, and I will not be satisfied till I see these guys living on a diet of bread and water.


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One gets the impression that Donie cannot go home to North Westmeath without hearing sad tales of unsold estates all around in places like Longford and west Cavan, the man lives close to an apocalypse up there.

Then there is the matter of the local builders annoying Donie week in and week out to 'do something' about it .

Face up to it Donie, nobody wants to live in Castlepollard, the tiger has left town . Some may say _forever_

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The one good thing he did was that anyone seeing the show last night would not have taken on his advice.
The reaction to his comments and to some degree the fact it was he who was making them, should put any FTBs off buying instead.

The one issue I would have with the Senate in regard to this is that although they all laughed at his comments... thereby indicating they know things are not looking good for property in Ireland, they are doing nothing about it. No one commented that the reduction in prices is good for FTBs... and the further they fall the better for FTBs.


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Donie Cassidy (FF, Westmeath), who has a large portfolio of property in Dublin.


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Senator Donie Cassidy: "We have a duty to tell first-time house buyers, young couples with no previous experience, that there is unbelievable value in the marketplace today. It will not last forever. It is never the wrong time to do the right thing. I offer the House the benefit of my experience and my opinion which is all any Member can do. I will remind the House, perhaps in 12 or 18 months, when prices have again increased by 25% or 30%, that they were told this by the Leader of the House on this historic day, the tenth anniversary of the Good Friday Agreement."


And there you have it folks - a veritable wolf in sheeps clothing.

Yes Donie, you do have a duty. Not the one you're thinking of though..

Big ups to the Irish Catholic Curch for lowering my standards of hypocricy to the point where I am not even in the slightest bit suprised by this kind of thing anymore.

Disgusted yes, suprised - no.

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And there you have it folks - a veritable wolf in sheeps clothing.

To make this whole thing even more farcical. Try replacing 'alcohol' with 'property'... :)
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Senator Cassidy has insulted his colleagues - and everyone else who drinks responsibly - by suggesting that several of them are not in a position to debate alcohol abuse as - unlike the good senator - they enjoy alcohol themselves.

The Pioneering senator smugly stated, “One cannot speak the sermon unless one lives by the Gospel”.

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and how many houses does he himself own in these places then

Mullingar
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if he "Lives by the Gospel" like he wants the FTB to do ???

Cassidy only buys DUBLIN property which says a lot about Westmeath as an investment opportunity ....to me anyway .

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Cassidy only buys DUBLIN property which says a lot about Westmeath as an investment opportunity ....to me anyway .

I noticed that too. The phrase "Eating one's own dog food" comes to mind...


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