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 Post subject: CSO get their rental figures from Estate Agents
PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:06 pm 
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I just spoke to them by phone. When I asked where they got thier figures for rent I was told form several sources including estate agents. Estate Agents are, it would seem, thier primary source!!

They do not ask tenents what they are paying as this would proove difficult when tenents move on. They do not do like for like monthly questionaires of tenents, ( eg tenent in 3 bed semi in a particular estate in Dublin and then use the same estate again in the following months).

Maybe this explains the huge gap between what we see on Daftwatch and the CSO figures. It will be too bad if the CSO looses credibility by not reporting the true figures.

This needs to be investigated more fully.

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Interesting! Are the they Central Spin Office or something?

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Do they get their Cannabis use figures from Hash dealers?

FFS :shock:


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 Post subject: Re: CSO get thier rental figures from Estate Agents
PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:20 pm 
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Orwellgeorge wrote:
I just spoke to them by phone. When I asked where they got thier figures for rent I was told form several sources including estate agents. Estate Agents are, it would seem, thier primary source!!

They do not ask tenents what they are paying as this would proove difficult when tenents move on. They do not do like for like monthly questionaires of tenents, ( eg tenent in 3 bed semi in a particular estate in Dublin and then use the same estate again in the following months).

Maybe this explains the huge gap between what we see on Daftwatch and the CSO figures. It will be too bad if the CSO looses credibility by not reporting the true figures.

This needs to be investigated more fully.
Time to give Joe a call?


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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:23 pm 
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Are these the same agents who inflate their sale prices? Or different honest salt-of-the-earth agents?


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Orwellgeorge wrote:
I just spoke to them by phone. When I asked where they got thier figures for rent I was told form several sources including estate agents. Estate Agents are, it would seem, thier primary source!!

They do not ask tenents what they are paying as this would proove difficult when tenents move on. They do not do like for like monthly questionaires of tenents, ( eg tenent in 3 bed semi in a particular estate in Dublin and then use the same estate again in the following months).

Maybe this explains the huge gap between what we see on Daftwatch and the CSO figures. It will be too bad if the CSO looses credibility by not reporting the true figures.

This needs to be investigated more fully.
Time to give Joe a call?


What's his number? I'll f***ing well call the sob.

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:26 pm 
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Indeed it is...

I feel that this thread may not last too long as the CSO will want it pulled. I stand over my post. The person I spoke with was very helpful, but would not give me a breakdown of how many estate agents they ask, what percentage of the rent inflation figures are derived from what the Estate Agents say etc.

One thing is for sure the bulk of the Rent deflator figure is coming from a party that has a vested interest in keeping the figure higher than it really is. Big Mistake.

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 Post subject: Re: CSO get thier rental figures from Estate Agents
PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:30 pm 
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BertieBasher wrote:
kerrynorth wrote:
Orwellgeorge wrote:
I just spoke to them by phone. When I asked where they got thier figures for rent I was told form several sources including estate agents. Estate Agents are, it would seem, thier primary source!!

They do not ask tenents what they are paying as this would proove difficult when tenents move on. They do not do like for like monthly questionaires of tenents, ( eg tenent in 3 bed semi in a particular estate in Dublin and then use the same estate again in the following months).

Maybe this explains the huge gap between what we see on Daftwatch and the CSO figures. It will be too bad if the CSO looses credibility by not reporting the true figures.

This needs to be investigated more fully.
Time to give Joe a call?


What's his number? I'll f***ing well call the sob.


01 208 3264
01 208 2980
01 208 2984

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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:31 pm 
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I just called the CSO Cork office. Told me the same thing. EA's and Local Authorities (for Council rents) are their only sources. They don't go next nor near tenants!
CSO Cork 0214535000


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A confirmation of this would be nice. If true it would be astounding.

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A Random Walk wrote:
A confirmation of this would be nice. If true it would be astounding.
I did above.


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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:36 pm 
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Confirmation, ring them yourself Cublin Office 01 4977144.

It needs publicity .... I detest Joe Duffy and his ilk. But this would suit him perfectly. Otherwise we need a question to be asked of the relevent minister in the Dail, by someone form the oppostion. Joe Higgins would be the man ....alas no longer a member. Maybe Tony Gregory TD...

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Surely the census would be the first place to start? Didn't we only fill in all our respective details last year?

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Jesus. NonBeliever must be really embarrased now. He keeps quoting the CSO figures as gospel. I feel for you NonBeliever.

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 Post subject: Re: CSO get thier rental figures from Estate Agents
PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:37 pm 
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Orwellgeorge wrote:
BertieBasher wrote:
kerrynorth wrote:
Orwellgeorge wrote:
I just spoke to them by phone. When I asked where they got thier figures for rent I was told form several sources including estate agents. Estate Agents are, it would seem, thier primary source!!

They do not ask tenents what they are paying as this would proove difficult when tenents move on. They do not do like for like monthly questionaires of tenents, ( eg tenent in 3 bed semi in a particular estate in Dublin and then use the same estate again in the following months).

Maybe this explains the huge gap between what we see on Daftwatch and the CSO figures. It will be too bad if the CSO looses credibility by not reporting the true figures.

This needs to be investigated more fully.
Time to give Joe a call?


What's his number? I'll f***ing well call the sob.


01 208 3264
01 208 2980
01 208 2984


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