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 Post subject: Re: Grappling with the housing crisis: Fresh approaches need
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:39 pm 
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You'd wonder why so much airtime is given over to people who simply want to stop the next generation from buying a place to live.

Because the majority of adults (66%) own/mortgage their home and don't want to see the value of their primary investment fall.
Hence object to everything that may affect same.

And politicians who want to get re-elected serve that vested interest.


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 Post subject: Re: Grappling with the housing crisis: Fresh approaches need
PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:52 am 
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imho, everything is sewn up as it is. We're in an ECB fueled holding pattern for the last few years,.


M. Draghi admits there's a problem but will we heed his warning?

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/eco ... ssion=true

Odd that the IT print edition buries this story under a headline:
"Minister pledges to reduce tax burden"


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 Post subject: Re: Grappling with the housing crisis: Fresh approaches need
PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 9:41 am 
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1. The pharmacies have no problems getting locums or pharmacists, they are fleeing Dublin hospitals that only pay €30k a year to 5 year qualified professionals. They are better off locuming and staying with the mammy at home....and after Mammy obligingly puts them on the insurance as named drivers of course. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Grappling with the housing crisis: Fresh approaches need
PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:37 am 
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Lefournier3 wrote:
snaps wrote:
imho, everything is sewn up as it is. We're in an ECB fueled holding pattern for the last few years,.


M. Draghi admits there's a problem but will we heed his warning?


Ah come on, pull on the green jersey string fundamentals and all that :sick:

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 Post subject: Re: Grappling with the housing crisis: Fresh approaches need
PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2018 12:10 pm 
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Lefournier3 wrote:
snaps wrote:
imho, everything is sewn up as it is. We're in an ECB fueled holding pattern for the last few years,.


M. Draghi admits there's a problem but will we heed his warning?

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/eco ... ssion=true

Odd that the IT print edition buries this story under a headline:
"Minister pledges to reduce tax burden"


Irish Times wrote:
European Central Bank chief Mario Draghi has linked the current spike in Irish property prices to “the search for yield by international investors”.

So this is acceptance from Mario that the ECB is fuelling an Irish property bubble considering they are the ones slamming interest rates to the floor forcing investors into riskier assets.
Ireland needs to be ready to tell the ECB to get stuffed next time it pops.


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 Post subject: Re: Grappling with the housing crisis: Fresh approaches need
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:53 pm 
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This story and Inchicore itself kind of sum up for me the development clusterfuck and the way things have 'gone back to normal' since the FG/Labour election in 2011.

A place like Inchicore with nothing much in it, in the midst of a housing crisis, so close to the centre of the most expensive city in the Eurozone.

The current mantra of houses, houses, houses is as bad as it was in the 2000s when massive estates would spring up in Lucan or Firhouse, and little or nothing around them initially at least, in terms of local shopping, entertainment, cultural or sporting facilities. Hell maybe even transport would be an afterthought so long as you got the housing knocked up, and development levies and VAT flowed in.

Like the 2000s you don't need to be a PHD in spatial strategy to understand what is wrong here. The likes of the fella down at the football club could see it then, and can see it now. What is actually going on in Ireland with all these houses everywhere, and not much else going on? The only game in town.

You fail to build a modest 12,000 seater football stadium on an existing site, to develop community and grass roots sport, and then moan every two years that the football team aren't as good as Croatia, or such and such failed to medal in the Olympics.

Fine Gael and their ragtag of various hangers on. A lot done more to do

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St Pat's ask fans not to protest outside homes of politicians

St Patrick's Athletic president Tom O'Mahony has appealed to fans to refrain from protesting outside the homes of local politicians as plans to build a 12,000-seater stadium in Inchicore look set to be rejected.
In April, the Saints announced proposals to build a state-of-the-art stadium Richmond Arena to be part of an overall City Development Plan that would include new houses, a shopping complex and an underground car park.
It is now anticipated that 500 homes will be built on the site instead. The Irish Independent reported that those houses will be a mix between social and a cost-rental model and would be controlled by Dublin City Council.

St Pat's director of football Ger O'Brien labelled it "a nightmare waiting to happen".
"Regardless of a stadium or not to lump more houses in to an area that has nothing in it is another nightmare waiting to happen," he tweeted on Friday.
"When I say 0, I mean 0 in it. No bank in Inchicore. 1 bank link in the whole village. 1 playground for kids. Pubs, off-licenses, bookies fast food is what Inchicore has to offer.
"1 maybe 2 proper restaurants in the whole area. No proper shopping facilities at all. 0 parking. And we are going to throw 500 more families in to an area that has had no help from anyone in decades."

A petition to support St Pat's plans for the area was set up two days ago and has well over 2,000 signatures to date.
On Saturday evening O'Mahony released a statement welcoming engagement with politicians but urging supporters to do so in the appropriate manner.
"It has been brought to our attention that some of you may be planning to show your opposition to the Dublin City Council plans for St Michel's Estate by protesting outside the homes of local politicians or at the launch of the plans next Monday," it read.
"We strongly appeal to supporters NOT to do this. It will not help our cause and in fact is likely to damage it.
"We need the goodwill of local politicians if our alternative plans are to have any chance of being accepted.
"We do of course want you to engage with local politicians. Do so by phone, by email, by letter, by talking to them in the course of their public engagements. Make your points in a friendly reasonable manner and please don't be abusive in any way.
"We know that may politicians will be weighing up the Council's plans and deciding whether to support them or to argue for a rethink which would include our proposal. The last thing we need is to turn them against us!"

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/0722/980326-st-pats-appeal-cool-heads-after-stadium-setback/


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 Post subject: Re: Grappling with the housing crisis: Fresh approaches need
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:16 pm 
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Dublin is already littered with large patches of grass used for field sports.


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 Post subject: Re: Grappling with the housing crisis: Fresh approaches need
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:19 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Grappling with the housing crisis: Fresh approaches need
PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 2:28 pm 
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Media headline that appeals to a target market - but hey let’s encourage Murphy to throw tax payer money at a symptom rather than the underlying problem.


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 Post subject: Re: Grappling with the housing crisis: Fresh approaches need
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:54 pm 
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The latest 'outrage' story in the media...now also getting the full shabang on the Joe Duffy show


They had nowhere to go': Mother and six children spend night on chairs at gardai station
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland ... -1.3590748
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A mother and six of her seven children were forced to stay in a Garda station in west Dublin on Wednesday night.

Margaret Cash (28), a member of the Traveller community and six of her children - aged between one and 11 - stayed at Tallaght Garda station after emergency homeless services were unable to find beds for them.

Ms Cash circulated pictures of her children sleeping on seats on social media.

Five children are photographed, asleep and fully clothed, lying across chairs in the brightly-lit seating area of Tallaght Garda station.

At least one further child not in the picture was said to be asleep on chairs elsewhere in building.

The photographs carried a caption saying: “Well after been 11 year on the housing list a year on the homeless dis is where my 7 kids have to sleep”.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:58 pm 
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Refugee family reunification putting ‘pressure’ on homeless system
Asylum-seekers losing their accommodation after bringing relatives into Ireland, official says
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social- ... 3?mode=amp
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A scheme where refugees can bring relatives to live in Ireland is putting pressure on homeless services, and pushing refugee families into emergency accommodation, the director of the Dublin Region Homeless Executive (DRHE) has said....
...“Our problem is once they’ve got the right to reside, then they are also getting a right to reunify with their families. So what might start off as one or two [people] ends up with much larger families,” Ms Gleeson told The Irish Times.

Families then have difficulty finding larger accommodation, or are evicted by landlords as the property is overcrowded, and end up presenting as homeless, Ms Gleeson said.

The Dublin homeless service had “no issue” with refugees bringing family members to Ireland under the reunification scheme, “but it is putting pressure on homeless services,” Ms Gleeson said.

“In some cases we had reunification where there was one person and it ended up as nine. There was no way that individual was going to be able to stay in his bedsit. Then they present as homeless,” she said. The issue has become more prevalent in the last six months, Ms Gleeson said.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2018 8:42 am 
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New Zealand slaps ban on foreigners buying property
FOREIGNERS face a ban on buying homes in New Zealand after a spending splurge by millionaires seeking doomsday bolt-holes crowded out local buyers and pushed up property prices.
https://www.perthnow.com.au/business/property/new-zealand-slaps-ban-on-foreigners-buying-property-ng-b88925433z.amp


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 Post subject: Re: Grappling with the housing crisis: Fresh approaches need
PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:14 am 
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Hard to cope with a housing crisis when literally anyone from the Eu or beyond can rack up and look for a house, very few questions asked

Half of families sleeping in Garda stations are Travellers or Romanian
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social- ... -1.3594025
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Homeless charity Focus Ireland told 30 families to present to Garda stations in April as there was no available emergency accommodation beds at night.
Several families were advised to present to Garda stations on more than one night, with the charity referring families on 46 occasions over the month.

Nine of the families advised to sleep in Garda stations were Romanian nationals, eight were from the Travelling community, seven were Irish and three were non-EU citizens.

12 of the 27 nationalities recorded were Romanian or non-EU...44%. How can you plan for that?


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 Post subject: Re: Grappling with the housing crisis: Fresh approaches need
PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:48 am 
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Hard to cope with a housing crisis when literally anyone from the Eu or beyond can rack up and look for a house, very few questions asked

Half of families sleeping in Garda stations are Travellers or Romanian
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social- ... -1.3594025
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Homeless charity Focus Ireland told 30 families to present to Garda stations in April as there was no available emergency accommodation beds at night.
Several families were advised to present to Garda stations on more than one night, with the charity referring families on 46 occasions over the month.

Nine of the families advised to sleep in Garda stations were Romanian nationals, eight were from the Travelling community, seven were Irish and three were non-EU citizens.

12 of the 27 nationalities recorded were Romanian or non-EU...44%. How can you plan for that?


Any non-Irish EU citizen that turns up in a Garda station: on a plane back to his/her home country. Well covered by EU legislation.
Any non-EU citizen: pretty much the same, plus complications when it comes to refugee status etc.


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