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 Post subject: Re: France, popular revolt (Yellow Vests) What's going on?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:53 pm 
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dolanbaker wrote:
jmc wrote:
The UK is an island of sanity at the moment compared to the ongoing political train-wrecks in France, Germany and Italy.

Yes, its that bad.

Now that's a scary thought!


Yeah, but it's clearly illinformed.

Still the yellow vests might be onto something.

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Yellow Vest Protesters Destroy 60 Percent of France’s Speed Cameras

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/ar ... ed-cameras

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 Post subject: Re: France, popular revolt (Yellow Vests) What's going on?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:27 pm 
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The Irish Times go to town on the GJ

Yellow vests' reactionary and populist traits not just a French problem
Defining inclinations of the movement are a clear and present danger to Europe
https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/yell ... -1.3756613
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The gilets jaunes revolt will turn two-months-old this week. It has already done more to disrupt the French political system – a campaign promise of President Emmanuel Macron – than Macron in his first 18 months in office.
Twelve people have died, most in accidents that occurred when motorists tried to run barricades manned by yellow vests. About 1,700 protesters have been injured and a thousand members of the security forces.
Four people have had their hands mutilated by tear gas grenades containing explosives. Sixty have been wounded in the face by rubber bullets, including 12 who lost an eye....

...The revolt is ideologically closest to the far right.
Gratuitous violence, racism, sexism, anti-Semitism and homophobia are the dark side of the movement that has plunged France into its worst crisis of the past half century.
Like Donald Trump’s grassroots supporters in the US, the gilets jaunes deeply distrust traditional media.
“Journalistes, collabos, journalistes, collabos,” they chant in front of television, radio and newspaper headquarters. Journalists are regarded as part of the elite, and as “collaborators” of the Macron administration.
Physical attacks on French journalists are so frequent that most hire bodyguards to cover protests.
On Saturday, journalists were attacked in Rouen, Pau, Toulon, and Paris. A bodyguard for LCI television was taken to hospital with a broken nose.
“We’re going to drag you out of your car and rape you,” a demonstrator threatened a woman journalist from La Dépêche du midi in Toulouse....

....More than 50 parliamentary deputies from Macron’s La République en Marche (LREM) have been threatened with hanging, guillotining or shooting. In Dordogne, the cars of an LREM deputy and her husband were torched outside their homes by gilets jaunes.
Jean-François Mbaye, another LREM deputy, received an anonymous letter calling him “a token black” and asking what right an African had “to meddle in French problems”.
The same text was sent to two other Black LREM deputies. “You are going to die,” noted the letter....

...The yellow vests’s hatred of high finance often translates into anti-Semitism. Just before Christmas, a group of yellow vests were filmed in Montmartre, making the quenelle, a version of a Hitler salute invented by the humourist Dieudonné.
That night, a 74-year-old woman watched three men in yellow vests doing the quenelle in the metro. “That’s an anti-Semitic gesture. I am Jewish. My father died at Auschwitz. Please stop,” asked the woman.
“Get lost, old lady,” shouted one of the men. “This is our country! This is our country!” chanted another, repeating the slogan of Le Pen rallies....
....The future of Europe, as well as the future of France, is at stake in Macron’s struggle quell the gilets jaunes. The French leader will publish an open letter on Monday outlining the terms of the “grand debate” he will begin on Tuesday with mayors in Normandy.


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 Post subject: Re: France, popular revolt (Yellow Vests) What's going on?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 2:41 pm 
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Podcast....from Jan 11
The Stand Ep 316: Can Macron survive the Gilets Jaunes?
https://soundcloud.com/thestandwitheamondunphy/ep-316-can-macron-survive-the-gilets-jaunes

Eamon Dunphy and Lara Marlow.


'France is a country unlike any other': read Emmanuel Macron's letter to his people
https://www.euronews.com/2019/01/14/france-is-not-a-country-like-any-other-read-emmanuel-macron-s-letter-to-his-people


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 Post subject: Re: France, popular revolt (Yellow Vests) What's going on?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 10:41 pm 
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'Get in here now!' - Activists lament low turnout at Yellow Vest Ireland-supported Dáil protest

ORGANISERS OF A protest outside the Dáil that was supported by the Yellow Vest Ireland movement have expressed disappointment about the turnout this afternoon.

The protest was titled ‘Not My Taoiseach!’ and a Facebook event advertising it said it was being organised specifically in response to “bad management and poor decisions” by Leo Varadkar.

“Leo Varadkar needs to know that the people of Ireland are repulsed by him. We did not vote him in and we have had enough,” the Facebook page stated.

The Yellow Vest Ireland Facebook page shared a number of posts about the event, which was scheduled to take place between 3pm and 6pm this afternoon

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https://www.thejournal.ie/yellow-vest-p ... 3-Jan2019/

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 Post subject: Re: France, popular revolt (Yellow Vests) What's going on?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 9:38 am 
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More turned out for the "no bail out" protest and at least there was a coherent position there. This seems like the usual "whatever it is, I'm agin it" crowd, so it's unsurprising that they are not resonating.

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 Post subject: Re: France, popular revolt (Yellow Vests) What's going on?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:45 am 
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That rally was mis-timed. It was too close to the new year and Brexit is the main show in town at the moment. The burning of the Refugee hostels has been associated with elements of the yellow vests which will mean the Left will not touch it now.

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 Post subject: Re: France, popular revolt (Yellow Vests) What's going on?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 12:00 pm 
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IMHO, the statements, slogans and actions of this group of protestors are suspiciously inane.


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